Native voices or English voices for campaigns ?

Due the last dlc for black shark release, in which the voices are in English when should be in Abkhaz or at least in Russian ( Both languages are official in Abkhazia ) unlike the Ultimate Argument dlc for Su-27 which has excellent dialog in Russian I am a bit upset.

Before this we get the Mi-8 campaign which also have the voices in English, that's a big immersion breaker for me, because I like to feel like a Russian pilot, and the Russian pilots obviously talks Russian.

The fact that the Eagle dynamics are mostly based on Russia and Belsimtek from Belarus makes hard to understand those decisions, so I would like to make a poll to see if the most part of the users prefer to have the voices in English for avoid to read subtitles.

I'm from Spain and even I don't have any idea about Russian, I like how it sounds and I'm not afraid to read subtitles while playing, it adds a lot immersion to the gameplay, the same happen with German units or French talking in English ( Which in reality can be more usual in a joint operations with units from NATO ), but I don't like to hear an Fw-190 pilot talking in English..

So please, let here your opinions.. :thumbup:

PS : And sorry for my English :smartass:

I chose native language but as long as it's Russian accented English, I'm not too picky.

that's a big immersion breaker for me

For me it is the opposite. Not being able to understand what anyone is saying and having to pause the sim to read subtitles is an immersion breaker from my point of view. I guess there is no right answer to this question, therefore I would welcome a compromise 3rd option which would be having both native and english versions available so everyone can choose as they prefer. But I realize that this would cause additional workload and costs however I would be willing to pay more for a campaign with both options.

For me it is the opposite. Not being able to understand what anyone is saying and having to pause the sim to read subtitles is an immersion breaker from my point of view. I guess there is not right answer to this question, therefore I would welcome a compromise 3rd option which would be having both native and english versions available so everyone can choose as they prefer. But I realize that this would cause additional workload and costs however I would be willing to pay more for a campaign with both options.

Yes.. I understand you, and I will pay a bit more in order to have both languages even I only use the natives..

Why not both options available when it comes to downloading initially?

More expense of course, but at least with a choice, most, if not all people would be happy.

I can understand the reasoning of the OP, but for me it works exactly the other way around. To immerse myself in a russian pilot, I must understand what I am doing and what I am hearing, for I believe russian pilots, like most pilots, know what they are doing. I love the eastern block hulls we can fly in this game but I cannot play them without their english cockpit mods for I do not know the difference between приборная скорость and высота над уровнем моря.

considering the votes are as they are now my guess it would just be best to give the players the option for either english narration or the original language.

Nativo voices and English text messages sound more original and help both sides.

How about leave it up to the mission designers? If they speak English then it makes sense for them to create missions with English voiceovers

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If it's a non-free product officially released by ED, and it is geared towards the international market, than yes, English is a good choice:

Because English is so widely spoken, it has often been referred to as a "world language", the lingua franca of the modern era, and while it is not an official language in most countries, it is currently the language most often taught as a foreign language. It is, by international treaty, the official language for aeronautical and maritime communications. (Source: Wikipedia)

Off topic, but I would even suggest that ED and 3rd party developers would go so far as to always include an English cockpit into their releases that can be enabled by the player if they choose to do so, for aforementioned reason. One can always "pretend" to be flying the "export variant" of any such aircraft. ;)

As a non-native English speaker myself, I would appreciate this.

If it's a non-free product officially released by ED, and it is geared towards the international market, than yes, English is a good choice:

 

Because English is so widely spoken, it has often been referred to as a "world language", the lingua franca of the modern era, and while it is not an official language in most countries, it is currently the language most often taught as a foreign language. It is, by international treaty, the official language for aeronautical and maritime communications. (Source: Wikipedia)

 

Off topic, but I would even suggest that ED and 3rd party developers would go so far as to always include an English cockpit into their releases that can be enabled by the player if they choose to do so, for aforementioned reason. One can always "pretend" to be flying the "export variant" of any such aircraft. ;)

 

As a non-native English speaker myself, I would appreciate this.

No agree here. This is a war simulation, not an international traffic controlled simulation. You can't dictate the English language in an aircraft that never have been produced with English cockpit.

I know is a matter of mission designer and not all people speak Russian. The best are missions with Russian voices and English text messages for the Russian aircrafts.

Any idea about a software to do that? example LOQUENDO

I myself would prefer English.

Before we can think of English versus Native, they need to fix the horrid radio phraseology, the usage of meters even when set to Imperial units (feet and knots are aviation standard regardless) and get rid of QFE.

I can understand the reasoning of the OP, but for me it works exactly the other way around. To immerse myself in a russian pilot, I must understand what I am doing and what I am hearing, for I believe russian pilots, like most pilots, know what they are doing. I love the eastern block hulls we can fly in this game but I cannot play them without their english cockpit mods for I do not know the difference between приборная скорость and высота над уровнем моря.

 

considering the votes are as they are now my guess it would just be best to give the players the option for either english narration or the original language.

Of course that English cockpits should be available since minute 0 for the non Russian speakers.. but that's a different things, with the voices you have subtitles in your language, but with the cockpits is totally different, because if you don't understand what a switch does, you can't fly the aircraft properly.

Before we can think of English versus Native, they need to fix the horrid radio phraseology, the usage of meters even when set to Imperial units (feet and knots are aviation standard regardless) and get rid of QFE.

With this happens the same than with the voices, is realistic that the Russian uses knots and feet ? No, it's not, but if it's an option to choose it should work.. but at least is very easy to make a fast and approximated conversion..

The No is winning the poll at this moment, but this is the English forum.. imagine what they are thinking about this topic.. :lol:

With this happens the same than with the voices, is realistic that the Russian uses knots and feet ? No, it's not, but if it's an option to choose it should work.. but at least is very easy to make a fast and approximated conversion..

It should at least be an option. Russia is just about the only country that uses odd aviation units like meters and kilometers, QFE and tors while everyone else uses feet, knots, and millibars. And we Americans get all the crap about being different ;) No excuse for using in.Hg, though lol.

If I have to read subtitles to figure out what is going on, I won't be buying the product.

If I have to read subtitles to figure out what is going on, I won't be buying the product.

Same here. I prefer realism , which means understanding the radio no matter what.

Native AND English (preferably with an acted native accent), selectable from Options menu. Absolutely nonsense that to play a game I have to understand russian, likewise it makes no sense that a russian guy must speak english to play this sim. Probably more than half of ED's market can speak english.

I am up to my balls with, "adim adim nol, wachirian" etc etc

Operating in a language that one doesn't understand is not realistic.

I voted for the Native Voice and Subtitles. Gives me a better feeling for which country im currently flying but if you choose to use the English voices I would say that there should be a Charakteristik dialect.

Se German english is a good example for because its not the yellow from the egg. :D

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What might be nice although probably too much to implement, would be the choice of language so the individual would be able to choose their preference. Like flying the Ka-50, one could choose whether they want to hear English or Russian.

I definitely believe it is up to the mission designer, however I would prefer in English with Native accents. To me, I would rather understand what is going on without having to read the subtitles. There isn't any right or wrong here though, only preference. It's everybody's own experience.

I'm very biased towards having native languages, with english subtitles.

Also take in count that some of you that are native English speakers are used to hear English all the time, so when in a movie for example you hear a Russian talking in English with Russian accent you assume it like something usual..

It happens the same for me when in a WW2 movie I hear the Germans talking Spanish emulating the accent I don't take it as something strange, but if I see the English version of that same movie it feels very strange, because I'm listening a foreign language and can't link it to the German that is another language.. Don't know if I'm explaining properly..

If something owns the Metro 2033 or last light game can experiment it easily.. simply put the Russian language with subtitles and later put and another unknown for you language like Spanish, and look how weird it feels..

And related to this I am going to tell a curiosity that happens with Spain and another country's with Spanish language.. When dubbing a English ( or whatever language ) movie to Spanish, the re are at least two versions of it, one for Spain, and another for the American country's, because even when the language is very similar both are using a lot of different words, expressions and accents, and even we can understand it perfectly, it feels so weird that in my case I prefer to see the original movie with subtitles than the another Spanish version..

I would like to see an option. Option to be able to choose in which language I will hear it and read it.

Yeah, having native and english voice-overs would be the best solution in my opinion.

Reading (especially without pausing) is not really an option, and I guess if I would be flying for the Russian airforce (or any other airforce for that matter) I would understand the radio, so simulating it with English would be fine.