ZHeN Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) I remember two years ago when INS was only introduced, it was such a big deal for any baguette pilot, we've learned to handle it! We've learned different alignment stages, memory alignment after each refueling/rearming... all felt so sophisticated and complete and now... it all smashed against a big brick wall of INS aligning in the air: Edited December 16, 2018 by ZHeN [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHeN Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 a little more research on the topic after I landed, rearmed, refueled with this aligned-airborne INS, my WP00 coordinates were completely off, so the range to my other waypoints was wrong but it all came back to normal after I entered my proper WP00 coordinates [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Confirm, INU arret until airborne. Completed full alignment with default coordinates and simply edited 00 to current while airborne. It was indistinguishable from a proper ground alignment. Alignment must fail if during alignment: Velocity significantly non zero Displacement significant Rotation significant Latitude significantly different than actual The solution won't converge and an error should occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 That's a pretty severe issue IMHO. Has this been acknowledged by the devs? Can't see it on the public bug tracker and it's been a months since it got reported... Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=DECOY= Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Thank you, I will have a look with the testers Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Thank you, I will have a look with the testers Awesome, thanks! :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHeN Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 better late than never :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxx Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Regarding INS alignment. In the Red Flag campaign by Baltic Dragon, if Auto Align is selected from main DCS menu, all waypoints are offset by 30 miles. Manual INS alignment, during start up, is fine. Not so much of an issue in Red Flag since most players want to do it the correct way! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]i7 Haswell @ 4.6Ghz, Z97p, GTX1080, 32GB DDR3, x3SSD, Win7/64, professional. 32" BenQ, TIR 5, Saitek x55 HOTAS. Search User Files for "herky" for my uploaded missions. My flight sim videos on You Tube. https://www.youtube.com/user/David Herky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayak Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 It's not a bug, it is just that the alignement is enforced in the mission options, so you have to align it properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibis Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) I'm new to the M2K and having a terrible time trying to align the INS. I have followed instructions in the "training" section a dozen times also watched several you tube tutorials as well as printed out the relevant section of the guide but I just cannot get the align light to flash. Is there a problem with it currently or am I just thick? I have spent hours trying to get past this point. Any help appreciated Ibis Edited May 4, 2019 by Ibis TYPO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifofum Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Check the options and make sure that "INS does not require alignment" is not enabled. Battery switch ON INS Mode Selector to "ALN" and you should see the light flash. Assuming that's working, turn mode selector to "VEI" and enter your coordinates and altitude as described in the instructional materials. Once your own position is entered, turn mode selector to "ALN" and press the "VAL" key below the PCN's number pad keyboard. THE GEORGIAN WAR - OFFICIAL F-15C DLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibis Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Check the options and make sure that "INS does not require alignment" is not enabled. Thank you, thank you :doh: I looked in the controls and options but not thoroughly it seems. Again thank you, I was about to book myself in for some mental therapy. :thumbup: cheers Ibis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHeN Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 any progress ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Bump. Status update on this issue? It has been reported back in 2018... Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinkerbuck Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 You might not be pressing the "validate" button you must press to get the alignment to start, once the switches are in align mode and LAT/LONG entry mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHeN Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 bumping as per Elmo's request on discord [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kercheiz Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 I confirm there is an issue, today forgot to switch to "NAV" after alignment, it was still on "ALN". I switched to "NAV" a few miles after takeoff, and everything was perfectly aligned. This wasn't the case before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Confirm this behaviour still exists for 2.5.6.57264? Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Yes, it's still a problem. Here is a track on the lastest OB : INS_air_ALN_bug.trk Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 So the M2000C is one of the very few modern DCS jets that don't have an "IFA" switch/position in the cockpit? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 INS updates in latest patch. Check patch notes. Marking as RESOLVED and moving to RESOLVED. Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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