Havner Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 DCS: F-86F Official EN Flight Manual Preview Yes, where exactly do you see a contradiction with the text in the manual ;) I hope we will be able to update all the screenshots in the manual to match all recent texture/model updates and fixes. Contradiction is that above the text quoted by me you describe the operation of this lever (together with the screenshot of it). Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 My suggestions for 3.1.7. Fixed, please verify. 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 My suggestions for 3.2.1 to 3.2.4.F-86 Doc - 3-2-1 to 3-2-4.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 My suggestions for 3.2.1 to 3.2.4. Thank you, please check updated file. 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Fixed, please verify.Regarding 3.1.7, looks fine except that the section "CANOPY EXTERNAL CONTROL BUTTONS" seems to be in a smaller font than the other sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Thank you, please check updated file.Small thing under 3.2.3. "The engine fuel flow rate is controlled by the fuel control system (fuel automation system) that consists of the main fuel system and emergency fuel systems system." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 My suggestions for 3.2.5 and 3.2.6.F-86 Doc - 3-2-5 to 3-2-6.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Regarding 3.1.7, looks fine except that the section "CANOPY EXTERNAL CONTROL BUTTONS" seems to be in a smaller font than the other sections. I think the small font is intentional in this case. 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Small thing under 3.2.3. "The engine fuel flow rate is controlled by the fuel control system (fuel automation system) that consists of the main fuel system and emergency fuel systems system." My suggestions for 3.2.5 and 3.2.6. Fixed, please verify. 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Suggestions for chapter 3.2.7.F-86 Doc - 3-2-7.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I also noticed none of the figures in 3.2.7 are numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 Suggestions for chapter 3.2.7. Fixed, please check. I also noticed none of the figures in 3.2.7 are numbered. I think this is intended. 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streakeagle Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) 3.1.3 Flaps, page 51. The flap control system is electrical, supplied from the primary bus. Each flap has an individual electrical engine. The control circuits of the electrical engines are electrically interconnected while the flap control actuators themselves are mechanically interconnected. This ensures availability of both flaps in case of failure of a single electrical circuit or failure of a single engine. It also prevents asynchronous extension and retraction of flaps. In English, you wouldn't normally say "electrical engine". From the F-86 manual: "An individual electrical circuit and individual electric motor actuate each flap." Also, they are not electrically interconnected other than being mechanically controlled by the same switch. The redundancy is increased by making the electrical circuits and actuators independent (or isolated), hence the use of the word "individual" in the manual. The original paragraph would have better English and be more accurate in this format: The flap system is controlled electrically with power supplied by the primary bus. Each flap is actuated by an individual electrical circuit and an individual electric motor. The flaps are mechanically interconnected. This ensures availability of both flaps in case of failure of a single electrical circuit or failure of a single electric motor. It also prevents asynchronous extension and retraction of flaps. Compare with the manual: The wing flaps are controlled and operated by the primary bus. The slotted-type flaps extend spanwise from the fuselage to the aileron on each each wing panel. An individual electrical circuit and individual electric motor are provided to actuate each flap. The flaps are mechanically interconnected so that if one actuating motor or electrical circuit fails, the respective flaps will be actuated through mechanical linkage with the opposite flap. This mechanical interlinkage also prevents individual or uneven flap operation, and a brake coil within each actuator prevents air loads from moving the flaps. No emergency system is provided, as enough protection is afforded in the normal system by the mechanical interconnection, the individual actuator motors, and the individual actuator motor circuits. There is no flap position indicator. Edited March 27, 2016 by streakeagle [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Minor suggestions for chapter 4.1F-86 Doc - 4-1.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjohnson241 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 It's coming along nicely. Please, when the final PDF is created, make sure you use a TOC that contains document links to text. Any manual of this size is very hard to navigate without a dynamic TOC. Thanks. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 3rd Mar Div RVN '66-'67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 A few small suggestions for chapters 4.2.1 to 4.2.6.F-86 Doc - 4-2-1 to 4-2-6.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 Thank you all for your suggestions! Most of them have been incorporated - please check updated document. I'd like to unify keyboard command format in the document. Currently we have a mix of two different formats: 1. Without spaces, e.g. [RCTRL+A] 2. With spaces, e.g. [RCTRL + A] Which do you prefer and why? 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team f-18hornet Posted April 3, 2016 ED Team Share Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) Thank you all for your suggestions! Most of them have been incorporated - please check updated document. I'd like to unify keyboard command format in the document. Currently we have a mix of two different formats: 1. Without spaces, e.g. [RCTRL+A] 2. With spaces, e.g. [RCTRL + A] Which do you prefer and why? I prefer with spaces because in Options in Controls section it is there as well. It just looks more unified to me the manual and simulator. Edited April 3, 2016 by f-18hornet AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, GeForce RTX 2080Ti, 32 GB DRAM, HOTAS TM Warthog, FSSB R3 Lighting, MFG Crosswind, Win 10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I prefer with spaces because in Options in Controls section it is there as well. It just looks more unified to me the manual and simulator.+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 minor suggestions for 4.2.7F-86 Doc - 4-2-7.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeCuvier Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Version Control Info in Flight Manual!!! Please include document version control in the flight manual! That's a standard approach in professional manuals and really a MUST in manuals of this size and complexity. I have not seen version control info in any of the ED flight manuals and this module would be a good one to start the practice. LeCuvier Windows 10 Pro 64Bit | i7-4790 CPU |16 GB RAM|SSD System Disk|SSD Gaming Disk| MSI GTX-1080 Gaming 8 GB| Acer XB270HU | TM Warthog HOTAS | VKB Gladiator Pro | MongoosT-50 | MFG Crosswind Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 suggestions for 4.2.8 and 4.2.9.F-86 Doc - 4-2-8 to 4-2-9.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Thanks, please review changes in updated document. 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Suggestions for 4.2.10.F-86 Doc - 4-2-10.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman109 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Any reason why I'm only seeing 153 pages in the manual? I've tried direct and dropbox downloads on 2 PCs, and it's always the same? What am I doing wrong, I'm missing 1/2 the important stuff and can't figure this thing out. Systems Virpil T50x2,T50CM2x2,Warbrd x2, VFX/Delta/CM2/Alpha/Tm Hornet sticks, VKB GF3, Tm Warthog(many), Modded Cougar, VKB Pedals/MFG Pedals/Slaw Viper RX+109Cam Pedals/Virpil T50+T50CM Throttle/CH Fightersticks/CH Throttles/CH peds, Index x1, Reverb x1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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