Fjordmonkey Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 The main reason being that the VPS is cheaper than running a dedicated. True, but I've got access to quite a bit of hardware and handle both VMWare and HyperV virtualization-systems pretty much every day through my job, I was wondering which of the two technologies was used. I haven't tested it out on VMWare due to the issues with not having a proper graphicscard forwarded from the host to the virtual machine (VMWare are notoriously picky about which cards they allow to be forwarded, and I personally don't want to mess with that if I can help it), but if I can get it to work on VMWare's drivers through some LUA-muppeting, I'll want to give it a shot. Regards Fjordmonkey Clustermunitions is just another way of saying that you don't like someone. I used to like people, then people ruined that for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teej Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I'm trying to bash through a solution for my own hardware. I've got ESX (vmware) running on a DL380 G6 (dual xeons, no onboard video) that I'm hoping to get DCS playing happy on. I'm fairly certain I'm going to have to stuff a GPU in there and set up passthrough to make it happen. Teej "Tank! I need a program for a TM Warthog!" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Thermaltake V9 SECC case | Corsair RM750 PSU | Asus ROG Ranger VIII | Intel i7 6700K | 16GB 3000mhz RAM | EVGA GTX 980Ti FTW | TrackIR 4 w/ pro clip | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM MFD Cougar Pack | Win 10 x64 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjordmonkey Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Please let me know how it goes, Teej :) I might be coming into a dual-node Dell VRTX-server in january/february, and I plan on using that for a DCS-server. Regards Fjordmonkey Clustermunitions is just another way of saying that you don't like someone. I used to like people, then people ruined that for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teej Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Well, I've solved MY issue, but it's not going to be an answer for those looking to rent a VPS somewhere, in most cases. I did in fact drop a lower end video card (radeon 6500) in my ESX server and set it to "pass through" to the VM I'll use as my DCS server. Tested and flown on. 1 "Tank! I need a program for a TM Warthog!" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Thermaltake V9 SECC case | Corsair RM750 PSU | Asus ROG Ranger VIII | Intel i7 6700K | 16GB 3000mhz RAM | EVGA GTX 980Ti FTW | TrackIR 4 w/ pro clip | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM MFD Cougar Pack | Win 10 x64 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjordmonkey Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Excellent, then I know what to do with some hardware I have flopping about :D Regards Fjordmonkey Clustermunitions is just another way of saying that you don't like someone. I used to like people, then people ruined that for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teej Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 For what it's worth, I developed this solution because I have the ESX server running anyway for several other purposes. When I wanted to run a server in the past, I've been using my old gaming rig. That thing runs 130-140 watts the majority of the time even if it's not running the game. The current additional load on my ESX box is only about 16 watts, and I may be able to get that down even lower....plus the heat it does generate isn't in my man cave. "Tank! I need a program for a TM Warthog!" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Thermaltake V9 SECC case | Corsair RM750 PSU | Asus ROG Ranger VIII | Intel i7 6700K | 16GB 3000mhz RAM | EVGA GTX 980Ti FTW | TrackIR 4 w/ pro clip | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM MFD Cougar Pack | Win 10 x64 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjordmonkey Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I've done some testing after yesterdays update to 2.5, and I can get the server to run comfortably on ESXi 6.5 on a single-6-core CPU HPe Proliant DL360p WITHOUT having a GPU in it. Not too sure why I can't connect to it yet, but that's probably because of firewall-muppetry. Testing continues. Regards Fjordmonkey Clustermunitions is just another way of saying that you don't like someone. I used to like people, then people ruined that for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoctor46 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the guide Neon! I can inform that I have been running 2.5 MP server stable for over a week now on ESXi 6.5, running Windows server2016, 8 gb vRAM and 6 vCPUs. Though the beta of 2.5 is very memory hungry so instead of giving it more vRAM i sat a pagefile of 32GB static. To get down cpu usage I throwed in a GT710 gpu in the server and run as passthrough to the MP server. I am not sure what did it, but before I changed the pagefile size to 32 the server would chrash randomly, sometimes after an hour or so, after a couple of days, or dependent on what was going on on the server. *Update... and it still crashes.. Shortly after it has started, after a couple of days, hours etc.. Guz Edited March 4, 2018 by TheDoctor46 More info Intel i7-8700K 4.8Ghz, 32 GB RAM, GTX 1080ti, Windblows 10, 512 SSD Virpil MongoosT-50 base with TM Warthog Stick TM Warthog Throttle MFG Crosswind HP Reverb G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetwo Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Does this work for 2.5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 If the server is powerful enough it should work just fine. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJack Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Does this work for 2.5? Yes but it uses a lot of memory and all 100% CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Yes but it uses a lot of memory and all 100% CPU. Yeah without a GPU DCS is a CPU monster. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetwo Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) Thanks guys appreciate the information. Would these specs be Sufficient? eight HT CPU cores (Intel Sandy Bridge or better) 8192 MB of RAM 800 GB of RAID-protected storage 48000 GB of bandwidth transfer Edited March 9, 2018 by Teetwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 How many you want to be able to connect? with a few people 5< you will be hitting 5G of RAM used, once you start having more players more RAM will be used METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoodooVinny Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 As of March 18th, 2018, I can say that these tweaks work for both the 1.5 retail and the 2.5 beta (with the latest patch). It lowered the CPU usage to about 1/2 of what it was before. The GPU usage did decrease by 1/2 with 1.5, but wasn't as successful with 2.5. With 2.5, the GPU load was lowered to about 60% instead of maxing them out. What is strange is that in the machine with dual video cards, it had both of them about 55%. DCS 1.5 had CPU 30% and GPU 35% = Q9550 @3.4/8GB DDR2-800/GTX580 1.5GB/Samsung SM841 256GB SSD + WesternDigital WD5000AAKS (24GB Pagefile) DCS 2.5 Caucasus had CPU 30% and GPU 60% = Q9550 @3.4/8GB DDR2-800/GTX950 2GB/Samsung 850 PRO 256GB SSD + WesternDigital WD5000AAKS (24GB Pagefile) DCS 2.5 Nevada had CPU 20% and both GPU1 and GPU2 55% = FX-8150 @4.2/12GB DDR3-1600/2xGTX580 SLI/RAID0 OS (2xIntel 520 120GB SSDs) + Segate ST500LM021 (24GB Pagefile) Mind you that the most people I have had on these at once was about 8 as they are used for other purposes during the day and only act as servers at night. But the lower CPU and GPU usage has made it much easier to keep the rooms they are in cooler compared to before. These are all on a single Suddenlink 1Gbs / 50Mbs connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targanon Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Hey there, you have azure account and run DCS I"m thinking down that path but have no clue of Azure could you point me to some docs or help to get a DCS server running on Azure?? Targs, GTX 1080ti, Asus Hero XI, Intel 9900KF @4.2MHz, 32g DDR4@3200Mhz, 4x 1Tb SSD 1x 400g m.2mvme(boot), 28" Samsung 4k, Saitek X-56 Throttle/Warthog Stick and Saitek Pro Flight Pedals. Moduls All of the NATO jets, and all the choppers.. DEDi MP [62AW] The Blackbirds Brisbane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mgw24 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Anyone have this running on ESXi 6.5 w/DCS 2.5? I tried a Win7 VM, but get an error about graphics card not supporting directx11.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick87Shaka Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Anyone have this running on ESXi 6.5 w/DCS 2.5? I tried a Win7 VM, but get an error about graphics card not supporting directx11.. The ESXi 6.5 software emulated GPU if i'm not wrong it's only DirectX 9 capable. You can try to enable the Hardware accelerated GPU enabling the "direct access" of the physical GPU by the virtual machine. Seem works also with integrated GPU on CPU ( most server config ) but I'm not sure.....Unfortunately I don't have a spare server/machine where test vSphere. Try follow this steps => https://elatov.github.io/2018/04/esxi-65-passthrough-video-card-to-plex-vm/ Let us know, could be a nice info for everyone and ED as well. FlighRIG => CPU: RyZen 5900x | RAM: 64GB Corsair 3000Mhz | GPU: nVIDIA RTX 4090 FE | OS Storage: SSD NVMe Samsung 850 Pro 512GB, DCS Storage: SSD NVMe Sabrent 1TB | Device: Multipurpose-UFC, VirPil T-50, TM WARTHOG Throttle, TrackHat, MFD Cougar with screen. Our Servers => [ITA] Banshee | Krasnodar - PvE | PersianConquest PvE Live Map&Stats | Syria Liberation PvE Conquest Support us on twitch subscribing with amazon prime account linked, it's free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgraham Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Figured I'd add a few notes to this for any one who maybe trying to get things running on a Windows 2016 box that 'has' the right equipment....... 1. make certain that the 2016 install is the one with the Desktop Experience items.. else your going to have to make certain to get the Virtual Machine items installed and working from the start. 2. By default the Desktop experience items do NOT include Direct Play and a few other items like this.. you may find you have to install them to get DCS to work. 3. Make certain you don't moronically name your Autoexec.cfg as Autoexec.cfg.txt and then wonder why things aren't working properly ;) 4. Server 2016 is very aggressive on port protection so you'll have to cross check all that as well. 5. Make certain windows is up to date... My suggestion if you can run 2012 or 2008 server but a lot of data centres aren't giving licenses for these guys any more :/ at least over here in Oz. i7 13700k, 64gb DDR5, Warthog HOTAS, HP Reverb G2 VR, win 11, RTX 3070 TGW Dedicated Server Admin, Australian PVE/PVP gameplay. (taskgroupwarrior.info/2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Dredd Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I have a DCS World instance working on ESXi on a Windows 10 Host with SSD datastore. I picked up a cheap old Quadro K2000 card for GPU passthrough. One thing I had to do to get it working was to remove the Vmware video driver in Device settings so that it used the installed Quadro driver as preference. Bear in mind that a normal GPU won't work in ESXi for GPU passthrough. At the moment I've been using it on the LAN only. No noticeable drop in performance as yet. Hoping to host something publicly to push the host and see how it performs under higher player and load conditions at some stage when I get free time and more experience on MP missions building. robgraham, Hit me up a PM if you wanna try it out online as I'm in Perth, Oz. Current Flight Rig i7 4960X @ 4.6Ghz ASUS Rampage IV Formula G.SKILL TridentX 2400Mhz 32GB DDR3 Crucial 1TB MX300 SSD MSI Gaming X 1080Ti Samsung 55" JS8000 SUHD 4K Windows 10 x64 TrackIR 5, Warthog HOTAS Saitek Pro Flight Combat Pedals Custom Akers-Barnes, MkI eyeball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) I did all the above (main post) and still some players can connect and others can't. Some are able to see the server's name, others can only connect via IP and yet most players can't do either. Anyone having this problem? EDIT: Problem solved. Edited February 16, 2019 by Alpenwolf Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musolo Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Sorry for necroposting but now as we do have DCS server withought graphics available what are the pros ad con`s of VPS over dedicated server host? ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzDeaDMeaT Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 This method of server config is ancient mate. you dont need a graphics card to run a dedicated server. If you have no hardware contention you wont see any performance degradation between a dedicated server and a VM. I run my servers with ESXi 6.7, Dual vCPU and 10GB RAM and 200GB of HDD space. That is with about 600 units on the mission with no lag or server issues. CPU: i9-12900K @ 4.9Ghz M/B: MSI MEG z690 Ace RAM: 128GB Video Card: MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X VR: Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musolo Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 This method of server config is ancient mate. you dont need a graphics card to run a dedicated server. If you have no hardware contention you wont see any performance degradation between a dedicated server and a VM. I run my servers with ESXi 6.7, Dual vCPU and 10GB RAM and 200GB of HDD space. That is with about 600 units on the mission with no lag or server issues. Is there a hostting you could advice for a small server . I want to make server for the first time anddon`t know much about it. Smallest possible configuration. I tried to find info mhow to run server on a VPS host butfound old guides that where done for old DCS when it didn`t have dedicated server. I want test things out first and learn how to manage such server. Could you point me to relevant info on the topic and maybe share sime tips. Thanks! ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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