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Old 03-30-2020, 05:07 PM   #41
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I never mentioned why the Hornet was designed as it is. I just mentioned why the Navy picked it.
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Old 03-30-2020, 07:26 PM   #42
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I don't agree. The Viper can win easily in WVR but it can't get in a slow one turn fight with a Hornet.
yea basically this. the F16 and Viper are close matches in a dissimilar way.




TBH when flying the Hornet i wish had the T/W ratio and speed of the Viper, When flying the viper id love it even more if it has the high alpha ability of the hornet, whilst retaining viper streghts . IF such an aircraft existed it would dominate both 1 circle and two circle fights.

I prefer the Hornet mostly due to "soft" stats. Aspects that arent going to directly impact combat performance, such as having a more advanced navigation suite ( moving map) and additional Multipurpose display to work with, and having overall a more digitally integrated cockpit ( less physical panels , and instead MFD pages.) IE having RWR contacts being able to be displayed via MFD's , the SA page page, or via HUD.

Although i do wish the Hornet had a F16 or A10C type Hotas, to keep hands on HOTAS more often.


Truth be told i would say say there is no perfect plane, at least not in DCS . At least not until the Eurofighter comes along and starts spanking them both
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Old 04-08-2020, 02:56 PM   #43
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Question: This performance that the F-16 has shown on the servers, flying at mach 1.5 to 45,000, firing its 120C at 50, 60 miles, killing everything (it seems like it never misses), all this is like in real life or the module of the F-16 is deregulated? I have seen a massacre of any aircraft that tries to face an F-16 and its 120C at high altitudes.
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Old 04-08-2020, 04:35 PM   #44
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Its hard to win against Viper on head to head scenario in Hornet unless you're really light on payload or have another wingman as a bait. 1 vs 1 given equal pilot skill is really hard (its winnable but hard) for the Hornet. The only fighter can win in that situation is the Eagle or the Cat. Don't believe me then just try it yourself on any pvp server.
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Question: This performance that the F-16 has shown on the servers, flying at mach 1.5 to 45,000, firing its 120C at 50, 60 miles, killing everything (it seems like it never misses), all this is like in real life or the module of the F-16 is deregulated? I have seen a massacre of any aircraft that tries to face an F-16 and its 120C at high altitudes.
Try fighting in an eagle or tomcat.

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Old 04-08-2020, 05:17 PM   #46
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Yeah, I'm trying hard for more than a week on DDCS, 104 and GS servers and the consequences are the same in 18 and 15 (dont have 14...sorry, dont like it heheheh)
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Old 04-08-2020, 06:26 PM   #47
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The F-18 sucks in A-A against anything. It's not very fast. Doesn't accelerate very fast, and it can't pull more than 7.5 G.
The only chance is to somehow make it to the merge and force the fight slow.

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Old 04-08-2020, 09:36 PM   #48
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Question: This performance that the F-16 has shown on the servers, flying at mach 1.5 to 45,000, firing its 120C at 50, 60 miles, killing everything (it seems like it never misses), all this is like in real life or the module of the F-16 is deregulated? I have seen a massacre of any aircraft that tries to face an F-16 and its 120C at high altitudes.
Online typically has planes taking off and immediately fighting, making fuel load not a concern. The F-16 has less range and is more impacted by fuel tanks than big fighters like the F-14 and F-15.


DCS also makes raw performance more influential than in reality because EW is so basic. The F-16 needs to carry an external jammer, which would be a handicap if ECM mattered. Also, while the F-16 has a small radar, FC aircraft are basically crippled in terms of avionics capability. With missiles now getting proper ranges you can shoot on a F-15 or Su-27 before it can even detect you, which is crazy.
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Old 04-09-2020, 07:39 AM   #49
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Yes, having a hornet and viper radar WIP with no EW modelling so far does not help. Once jamming is implemented for both radars the hornet (or other fighters by that matter) jammer will deny really long shots. The viper radar is not bad at all but should suffer a lot against modern jammers. The hornet on the other hand should burnthrough the jammer a bit earlier, so there you go, you will have a first shot option against viper.

That does not take away the superior viper kinematics, you need to learn to cope with that.

The same should apply against an F15C, if we had some basic EW modelling, this fighter would rule them all in bvr as his radar is really a monster and with its incredible speed it should always have a first shot advantage over vipers and hornets. Sorry for the Off topic
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Old 04-09-2020, 08:10 PM   #50
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Yes, having a hornet and viper radar WIP with no EW modelling so far does not help. Once jamming is implemented for both radars the hornet (or other fighters by that matter) jammer will deny really long shots. The viper radar is not bad at all but should suffer a lot against modern jammers. The hornet on the other hand should burnthrough the jammer a bit earlier, so there you go, you will have a first shot option against viper.

That does not take away the superior viper kinematics, you need to learn to cope with that.

The same should apply against an F15C, if we had some basic EW modelling, this fighter would rule them all in bvr as his radar is really a monster and with its incredible speed it should always have a first shot advantage over vipers and hornets. Sorry for the Off topic
Not to mention both the Hornet and F16C still lacks semi automatic and automatic modes for the AN/AlE47 suite.
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