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Old 01-10-2019, 02:07 AM   #11
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Thanks for the replies thus far Greatly appreciated.

To answer some questions...

My budget would be reasonably high for this build so budget wouldn't be a deciding factor on which CPU. I'd definitely be planning to install whatever the latest and greatest GPU is, at the time, most likely the 2080TI.

I would most likely be using 32 Gigs of memory. Possibly more.
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Old 01-10-2019, 02:26 AM   #12
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https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
My only concern re AMD is that their single-thread performance is much less than what their clock speeds suggest relative to Intel .
Yes , Vulcan , but we don't know when or how implemented .

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Aaand i just found this: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php...8&postcount=63
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Old 01-10-2019, 02:28 AM   #13
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Where are you guys getting these 2080Ti's?

https://www.evga.com/products/produc...et=RTX+2080+Ti

The EVGA site always seems to be sold out.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:16 AM   #14
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Where are you guys getting these 2080Ti's?

https://www.evga.com/products/produc...et=RTX+2080+Ti

The EVGA site always seems to be sold out.
I'm in Australia and bought from one of our local PC stores, I ordered mine 31st Dec same store sold out of 2080Ti's the next day this happens often and likely why the price is holding up.

As an aside our pricing here is near double US pricing somewhat higher than exchange rate plus tax. Hang in there they will become available.
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:22 AM   #15
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I wanted to go with a 9900K. Would the 9900K be a good choice for my uses? Or would the additional cores cause me too much heat and limit the speed of the chip too much? I'd be using 360 or 280 AIO but I've read that the 9900K puts out a lot of heat when overclocking and I'm guessing I'd likely have to overclock to get all the performance I can (I don't want to hurt the longevity of the chip too much though as I tend to keep a build for 4-5 years).

Or maybe there is a way better solution that will be out in the next month or so?

Some have suggested the 9700K instead of the 9900K suggesting that it might overclock better due to less heat but I'm not sure if thats true or not. Its been since 2012 that I built a machine last.

Price is not an object so I wouldn't be basing my CPU choice on saving a few bucks here or there.
I'm twice confused, why do they want the 9900K? For flashing? The 9900K is totally useless over the 9700K for gaming. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...pu,5876-9.html Even the 9700K is overkill for DCS for now.

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Old 01-10-2019, 07:45 AM   #16
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The 9900K for gaming I'm speechless.

Cooling: Corsair H115i v2.

"According to Silicon Lottery's latest statistics, 28% of Core i7-9700Ks the company tested can reach 5.1 GHz or greater (though it only uses a -2 AVX offset and a higher 1.362V Vcore setting). As of 10/28/18, Silicon Lottery reports that all Core i7-9700Ks it tested can maintain 4.9 GHz or greater."

"Intel's Core i7-9700K certainly has enough horsepower to push the fastest graphics cards available."

"To be sure, Intel's Core i7-9700K is the new mainstream performance leader for enthusiasts with money to spare. If heavily-threaded productivity applications are commonplace on your desktop, there might be reason to invest in Core i9-9900K. Otherwise, avid gamers and overclockers will find Core i7-9700K to be a well-balanced chip that doesn’t disappoint."
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Lisa showed us how a good 7nm "chiplet" looks like, with up to 16 cores.

Imho, it will have 16 cores and 5G+, I bet a module !
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I'd do what others have already noted, which is to wait a few months to see how the new 7nm Ryzen 3 chips stack up to Intels stretched 9th gen 14nm chips. At the similar price point of that 9900k you will definitely be getting greater than 8 physical cores - probably 12 or 16 -, an AM4 platform that supports PCI 4.0 on at least the x16 slot, and quite possibly a chip with a comparable IPC to that of the 9900K. It will be on 7 nm instead of 14nm so it will run more cooler, most likely allowing for overclocking headroom. At the very least, the ryzen 3 chips will be much cheaper than the intel chips with more cores, and the money you save from not buying intel you can invest into a a better gpu. I don't think we'll see anything fantastic from intel until at least mid to late 2020 after they get their fabrication process sorted out and deal with their supply problems.
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:56 PM   #19
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Here's the benchmarking I was thinking of, scroll down a bit and there are charts for DRAM frequency and impact on FPS:


https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php...90&postcount=2


All other things equal he found a 10% increase in average FPS and a 15% increase in minimum FPS going from DDR4-2133 to DDR4-3200.
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I'd do what others have already noted, which is to wait a few months to see how the new 7nm Ryzen 3 chips stack up to Intels stretched 9th gen 14nm chips. At the similar price point of that 9900k you will definitely be getting greater than 8 physical cores - probably 12 or 16 -, an AM4 platform that supports PCI 4.0 on at least the x16 slot, and quite possibly a chip with a comparable IPC to that of the 9900K. It will be on 7 nm instead of 14nm so it will run more cooler, most likely allowing for overclocking headroom. At the very least, the ryzen 3 chips will be much cheaper than the intel chips with more cores, and the money you save from not buying intel you can invest into a a better gpu. I don't think we'll see anything fantastic from intel until at least mid to late 2020 after they get their fabrication process sorted out and deal with their supply problems.
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