Sidearm bug ?

Is sidearm working in this latest update? He gives me permission to launch but the missile does not reach the target, passes over it or explodes on the side. Has there been any change in his release?

Version 1.58

I also noticed that hit probability is quite a bit lower since the last update. But I fear it´s a feature, not a bug. But not sure...

I also noticed that hit probability is quite a bit lower since the last update. But I fear it´s a feature, not a bug. But not sure...

It seems much better than that if I'm not total wrong here. Made some tests with EWR's and the sidearms don't kill the whole unit but the radar... What a feature :joystick:

I only put up some SA15s and SA8s. There it was either hit and kill, or miss by a few meters (would guess almost half of the time, didn´t keep book) and unit still completely active.

Ok strange. Time will tell I think. The EWR's simply stopped sending.

Ok strange. Time will tell I think. The EWR's simply stopped sending.

EDIT: I suppose you are right. After several tests I found that the damage of the EWR happens in 2 out of ten times (maybe because it's so big?)

All other units will be destroyed or missed (what is intended IMO).

We will check the issue.

It seems much better than that if I'm not total wrong here. Made some tests with EWR's and the sidearms don't kill the whole unit but the radar... What a feature :joystick:

Tried with shooting at SA-8 OSA's. Even though AGM-122 count as hits & I can see them hit, the OSA still keeps on shooting back?

Optical backup mode?

Tried with shooting at SA-8 OSA's. Even though AGM-122 count as hits & I can see them hit, the OSA still keeps on shooting back?

just tried, got 2 hits on the same SA15 with AGM122, but it wasnt destroyed and killed me and my mavericks. Before the update, 1 sidearm was enough to kill a SA15.

Went back on the same SA15, sent 2 more AGM122 and finally killed it.

After many tests, it seems that the warhead changed and is less powerful.

Anyone heard of any word on the Sidearm bug with the latest update. Completely unreliable now.

Zeus ?

Same issue here. Also seems to be a problem with re-locking after the first missile is fired, it seems that I have to deselect/reselect on the ACP to get a second missile to lock.

Same issue here. Also seems to be a problem with re-locking after the first missile is fired, it seems that I have to deselect/reselect on the ACP to get a second missile to lock.

That's not new.

Same issue here. Also seems to be a problem with re-locking after the first missile is fired, it seems that I have to deselect/reselect on the ACP to get a second missile to lock.

The issue with re-locking is a known one.

As for the sidearm effectiveness - I think it's now more in line with what it should be.

Original Sidearm was too "OP" with it's powerful warhead and precise guidance. Now you are able to achieve mission kills on things like Osa - radar is dead. But it's reasonable not to expect a hard kill on anything, but the lightest targets, and occasional misses.

I agree it's a small missile. Was a surprise after the patch but now I got used and it's more challenging.

The texture while Under the wing is a bug, but when launched the texture is correct.

I cannot do much about the AGM-122 because ED is behind the updates.

I am trying to get kill radius increased, since the warhead uses shrapnel to shred the antenna, but I need track files when the missile hits close to the radar (as in just alongside the radar) for no damage.

There's no frag model in DCS for warheads, so 'increasing the radius' will just turn it into a bomb with way too much power.

Instead, please ask ED for:

1. Frag model

2. Replace the missile fuze with a collidable object (a missile with a small warhead impacting near the radar vehicle might get the frag where you want it - ie. unarmored vulnerable bits)

3. Better trajectory shaping capability for your missile given the fuze (don't want it to trigger against ground - so always keep target slightly below the horizon if the dive angle is less than some number of degrees)

Partial/low damage from a close hit is more realistic than increasing the kill radius. These things aren't 100% accurate. And please remove EWRs from the target list ... or really, any relatively low-frequency radar.

I cannot do much about the AGM-122 because ED is behind the updates.

 

I am trying to get kill radius increased, since the warhead uses shrapnel to shred the antenna, but I need track files when the missile hits close to the radar (as in just alongside the radar) for no damage.

Thanks for checking it out, Zeus

I cannot do much about the AGM-122 because ED is behind the updates.

 

I am trying to get kill radius increased, since the warhead uses shrapnel to shred the antenna, but I need track files when the missile hits close to the radar (as in just alongside the radar) for no damage.

Here is a short test so please forgive my incompetent flying. The hit on the SA-15 is logged. I think the main problem is in fact not the hit probability but the damage output. Due to the current hitpoint model (and maybe one hitbox for simple ground models?) we won't get anything better atm until ED introduces fragment damage. I'm with Tharos that simply increasing the damage output would be adjusting on the wrong end...

I'm not a coder so I won't comment on anything but maybe ED can make a workaround like hit by sidearm = radar silent...

Sidearm.trk

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Yup, add frag + damageable components like the radar dish. Even without frag partial damage could cause it to shut down.

Then for now it's better to have them destroy the whole target as it was on initial release.

Otherwise the SA-8 OSA will still shoot back even if hit & that kinda destroys the whole point with SEAD in missions & you can't lock on other emitting targets.