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Old 12-11-2017, 03:49 PM   #111
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I'm a touch confused... How are you guys activated activating so many buttons with your thumb *at the same time*? I can only ever really activate one binding with any digit at any one time...

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This is kind of the point.

When using your thumb to manipulate the mini-stick you cannot use your thumb for activating any of the other buttons on the side of the throttle-grip (usually these buttons would have functions like radios, countermeasures, cage/uncage etc.).
However when using the index-finger to manipulate the mini-stick you can still activate your countermeasures/radios/etc with the buttons on the side of the throttle using your thumb.

This is the reason I prefer a mini-stick that is to be used with the index-finger. It's not just a thing of habit or getting used to a different layout but also has a direct effect on the ability to "multitask".

I am sorry if my previous explanation was a bit ambiguous.
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:19 AM   #112
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So maybe a dumb question - what's the difference between an encoder rotary and just a normal rotary axis?
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Old 12-14-2017, 06:07 AM   #113
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So maybe a dumb question - what's the difference between an encoder rotary and just a normal rotary axis?
I guess the rotary encoder is no axis, but has discrete physical positions (each of which can be assigned to a function in the software). To achieve that with a rotary axis, you would have to divide it into bands in the software itself and assign a function to each of the bands, but using it e.g. for a mode switch would be much less convenient because you wouldn't feel when it will switch between the positions.
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Old 12-14-2017, 06:16 AM   #114
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On top of that, an axis has usually less than 360 degrees movement. Encoder can turn in each direction infinitely, so it can be mapped to all those frequency or heading knobs. Of course only if the devs allow you to map those functions (looking at you Razbam).
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Ah ok, so it's not a true axis but essentially a series of buttons if I'm understanding you right - if the break was say 10 degrees you could theoretically have 36 button presses? Or is it more like what I have on the left hand side of my x-55 throttle where you can have what I'm thinking of as a single button in either direction that repeats?

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Ah ok, so it's not a true axis but essentially a series of buttons if I'm understanding you right - if the break was say 10 degrees you could theoretically have 36 button presses? Or is it more like what I have on the left hand side of my x-55 throttle where you can have what I'm thinking of as a single button in either direction that repeats?
It's more like a series of buttons then, but that depends on the programming. Although, if Saitek's SST would allow you to program it (in a way that e.g. Target does), even that simple rotary thing on their throttles (which behaves as a repeated command) could have been programmed to emulate the rotary encoder behaviour (i.e. like having different outputs depending on the number of pushes and direction).

But, I'd presume the mode switch on Virpil's throttle has only the 5 indicated positions rather than an indefinite number?
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So maybe a dumb question - what's the difference between an encoder rotary and just a normal rotary axis?
It's essentially like a momentary On-(Off)-(On) toggle switch but with rotary action. It has 2 momentary contacts, call them CW (clockwise) and CCW (counter-clockwise).CW closes momentarily (for a very short time) each time you turn the knob clockwise over the detent, and CCW closes momentarily when you turn the knob counter-clockwise over the detent. The detent is typically reached every 20 or so (depends on the mechanical design) degrees. If you turn the knob by 100 degrees clockwise you might get about 5 short closures of the CW contact. And so on.
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I think the wheel on the left of the X56 throttle base is a rotary encoder. It's a very useful item - I use it as a mousewheel for VR use and for things like kneeboard pages next and previous. It can be really tedious, clicking through all those diagrams in the kneeboard, but with that thing you can zoom through them really quickly.
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