Hovis Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Hi, I've had this problem all day and I can confirm it is only me. Flying on the 104th Phoenix server and I can start up fine, no problems. When I get the FARP I shut down to refuel, following correct shut down procedure. However when I go to startup once again my main generator voltage meter is reading between 9-12 volts. Nowhere near enough to start the engine. Pressing the engine start button will cause the meter to read 1-2V and I barely pass 3% N1. Will not go higher. Attempting this twice will cause everything to flicker, resetting the low rpm audio warning. Basically draining the entire chopper of power. Shutting down all radios, lights, transponder, altimeter and heaters give me another 1.5-2V but thats it Worth mentioning 1/3 times the 1st attempt to restart showed 15-20V and I reach 9% N1 but no higher, fiddling with cyclic did not work. Oh and I did everything in sync with a friend in same position, same FARP, different chopper (obviously) and he started no sweat. Am I unlucky? Am I missing something? Help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert31178 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I would try setting an ICS button on your HOTAS ad calling the ground crew like that, you can get them to do anything except repair an A/C with it still running. Also, you could go on ground power before you power down, I have gotten into the habit of doing that just about every time I hop in the Huey. ~S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 This is usually only a problem in the cold. Check on the outer air temperature gauge and, as Robert pointed out, request ground power if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippylummox Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Yeah, I've had this happen on occasion. Usually only in the cold, but not always. Rare for me. :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovis Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Thanks for replies, so the cold is the culprit, There was snow around. What gets me is I had pilot heat and engine de ice on while flying but my wingman had no issues whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert31178 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Ooooh.....well in that case.....Pitot heat KILLS your batteries!!! Yep, make sure to keep that and de-ice OFF unless running. De-ice is on the checklist for after start up for a reason!! My unit runs a lot on winter maps during the winter (real time weather it seems, I'm not tech) and as before I have made it a habit to go on ground power the second I get in the helicopter, and the second I touch down for anything extended. I've even been sitting in a field waiting for my CAS buddies to clear a path for me to recover a downed pilot and had my DC Gen light on the enunciator panel come on. Kinda a similar topic question, but does it replicate the door gunners drawing power too? the mini's are electrically run, so in real life they would also be drawing power. not sure if the game simulates that, but if so it would be another draw on the system. Best bet is just to get into the habit of going on ground power. I even do it when repairing since that takes a few minutes. I have had killed batteries from sitting for a repair and not dong anything but shutting down the fuel and throttle. (checklist, I know, but in this game I was young once, and retarded....) ~Rob Edited March 22, 2017 by Robert31178 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deezle Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 You don't have to shut down to refuel. Intel 9600K@4.9GHz, Asus Z390, 32GB DDR4, EVGA RTX 3070, Custom Water Cooling, 970 EVO 1TB NVMe 34" UltraWide 3440x1440 Curved Monitor, 21" Touch Screen MFD monitor, TIR5 My Pit Build, VKB Gunfighter Pro w/WH Grip, TMWH Throttle, MFG Crosswinds W/Combat Pedals, Cougar MFDs, Custom A-10C panels, Custom Helo Collective, SimShaker with Transducer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I wonder why your friend next to you had no problem. Was he on GP?? A Co, 229th AHB, 1st Cav Div ASUS Prime Z370-A MB, Intel Core i7 8700K 5.0GHz OC'd, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, Win 10 Samsung 65" 4K Curved Display (Oculus Rift occaisionally), Track IR5, VoiceAttack, Baur's BRD-N Cyclic base/Virpil T-50CM Grip, UH-1h Collective by Microhelis & OE-XAM Pedals. JetSeat & SimShaker for Aviators. JUST CHOPPERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafferson Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 INVTR switch-MAIN ON ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert31178 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 INVTR isn't on prior to start up per checklist, it you turn it on after you're running. do you mean turn it off to not draw form the battery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafferson Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 INVTR need to be on after engine run up and during the flight, or you drain the Battery empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert31178 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) From the checklist found in the TM 55-1520-210-10 8-21 Before Starting Engine, item 2.I.2: NVTR switch - OFF, followed in the next subsection by "Ground power unit - connect for GPU start"; there is nothing after this denoting anything special to be done if not using GPU, so on to...... 8-22 Starting Engine, items 1-5 are starting the turbine through NI 68%-72%, followed by item 6: NVTR switch - MAIN ON, followed by a GPU disconnect and run up to operating RPM's. Now granted, I'm no Huey pilot, but I can read a checklist just the same. Edited March 29, 2017 by Robert31178 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 INVTR need to be on after engine run up and during the flight, or you drain the Battery empty. How does that work? Without any inverter running all of the AC-powered instruments don't work, obviously, but I don't see how they should run on battery power instead. I can see what you said happening if you don't switch on the DC Generator, of course, but why the inverter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafferson Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Sorry if im wrong and correct me, i remamber this Problem wehn i started lerning the huey. One time my inverter was off and after shutdown the Battery was empty. But may be the Problem is someting els? I learned to make the startup like in the Manual discribed, and never had Battery Problems again. The running System shold provide enough power to run the System with Battery switch off. My be i forgot this as well... C. STARTER-GENERATOR SWITCH The STARTER GEN switch is located on the DC POWER control panel. The START position permits the starter-generator to function as a starter. The STBY GEN position permits the starter-generator to function as a generator. It would be nice if someone can explain in Detail how the electrical System charges the battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1330 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 It's the starter-generator that charges the battery. If it is left in starter mode after the start cycle is complete, your battery will not charge. All systems will run off the battery, even in flight. Same if the generator fails / is damaged (not sure if DCS models this) Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Asus Crosshair VI Hero X370 / Corsair H110i / Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT / 32Gb G.Skill TridentZ 3200 / Samsung 980 Pro M.2 / Virpil Warbrd base + VFX and TM grips / Virpil CM3 Throttle / Saitek Pro Combat pedals / Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Interesting. Shouldn't both DC generators be charging the battery, though? The point of setting the 'Starter' to standby generator being that it'll take over if the main generator fails? That's at least how I understand Fig 6.2 in the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1330 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Yup, looking at the manual I think you're right. I fly the twin Huey (well, the 412 - but essentially the same), and there is no standby gen. Just one starter/generator per engine, which provides the same redundancy. Forgot the single Huey had the standby. Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Asus Crosshair VI Hero X370 / Corsair H110i / Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT / 32Gb G.Skill TridentZ 3200 / Samsung 980 Pro M.2 / Virpil Warbrd base + VFX and TM grips / Virpil CM3 Throttle / Saitek Pro Combat pedals / Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafferson Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Thank You Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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