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Old 12-30-2016, 07:31 PM   #21
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As a preparation for the next "Beacon Map" generation I´ve compiled a list of all available navigation and radio equipment from every cockpit. It would be nice if some experts proofread this early draft an report every detected mistake. Thanks in advance.

Aircraft Radio and Navigation Equipment [DRAFT 1].pdf
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:58 AM   #22
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Aircraft Radio and Navigation Equipment [DRAFT 2].zip
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Old 01-14-2017, 03:49 PM   #23
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The DCS Mi-8 has an intercom actually, but other than that, what a spiffy doco! Well done mate
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Old 01-14-2017, 04:18 PM   #24
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Like the SA342

ICS : TF AP 18
VHF/AM : TRAP 138
VHF/UHF : Saturn TRA 6031
VHF/FM : TRC 9600 PR4G
ADF : NR AN 19
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Old 01-14-2017, 04:55 PM   #25
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Great, thank you!

There's an error for L-39, its R-832M radio is V/UHF (118-140MHz, 220-389.95 MHz).
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Old 01-14-2017, 09:04 PM   #26
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Guys, thanks for your feedback. This is much appreciated.

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The DCS Mi-8 has an intercom actually
Yes it has. Most multy crew aircraft have some kind of intercom system to communicate with each other. However, I am primarily focused on the aircrafts ability to communicate with the ground crew via wired microphone (Interphone), because that has an impact in the simulation. Based on my research, the Mi-8 has not that ability. If I am wrong at this point, I ask for correction.


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Like the SA342

ICS : TF AP 18
VHF/AM : TRAP 138
VHF/UHF : Saturn TRA 6031
VHF/FM : TRC 9600 PR4G
ADF : NR AN 19
Thanks for the informations concerning the radio designations. As said before, based on my research, the Gazelle also has not the ability to communicate with the ground crew via wired microphone. This beeing so, the Interphone is greyed out in the document. If I am wrong at this point, I ask for correction.


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There's an error for L-39, its R-832M radio is V/UHF (118-140MHz, 220-389.95 MHz).
You are absolutly right. I´ll fix this immediately.
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Old 01-15-2017, 03:53 AM   #27
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Based on my research, the Mi-8 has not that ability.
It does have that ability. There's a switch on the left top panel, flip that from "RADIO" to "ICS" (not sure what the Russian names are, though, since I'm using Devrim's English pit mod), close all your windows and doors and talk to the ground crew and they'll hear you just fine.

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Thanks for the informations concerning the radio designations. As said before, based on my research, the Gazelle also has not the ability to communicate with the ground crew via wired microphone. This beeing so, the Interphone is greyed out in the document. If I am wrong at this point, I ask for correction.
No problem.

As Msalama said, you can switch between ICS and radio to speak to the ground crew.

Another idea, you can let the ICS name and add a ground crew option.
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It does have that ability. There's a switch on the left top panel, flip that from "RADIO" to "ICS" (not sure what the Russian names are, though, since I'm using Devrim's English pit mod), close all your windows and doors and talk to the ground crew and they'll hear you just fine.
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As Msalama said, you can switch between ICS and radio to speak to the ground crew.
Another idea, you can let the ICS name and add a ground crew option.
Although I sincerely believe that the SPU-7 ICS in reality exclusively provides communication between crew members inside the helicopter (see excerpt from the TM 1-1520-Mi-17-10 helicopter operators manual), I see the need of the DCS developers to simulate interaction with the ground crew for each flyable aircraft in DCS.
This interaction can be performed by simple shouting, by a show of hands or by electronic means. All three of this methods we have more or less simulated in DCS.
For the Mi-8 the devs solved the communication problem with the ground crew by assigning it to the ICS System.
For the sake of easy understanding the guide, I´ll take on the SPU-7 into the interphone category.






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Old 02-04-2017, 12:40 PM   #30
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Draft 3 ist ready for preview. Since the document is growing beyond the 10 MB limitation of this Forum, I´ve paced it in GoogleDrive.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Z...ew?usp=sharing
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