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Old 01-10-2019, 09:53 AM   #41
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Hey, relax. It is not about specs, right or wrong. It's about squeezing a maximum out of the module, and expanding your skill set. I'm not saying you have to struggle with the hornet if has not flown the F5 , but one would definitely gain some extra skill and confidence when landing in the tough conditions. I will try to land my sofa if it has a hook, who cares. Folks train refueling up side down, not a problem. At the end of the day, if I fly F5 online without enough of the fuel to get back home I have an option to land on a carrier (assuming one is around). It is advantage.



By the way, you can land F5 without going fast and low if you empty the tanks and zero rounds. I could do around 150 knots. In the vid I posted I have too much weight (fuel, ext tank, ammo, flares etc) therefore had to go fast.

You can practice anything you wish but don't give wrong advises to new people like:

"Any DCS aircraft capable of carrier landing will help to build the right skills. F5 is an ideal trainer in that respect,"

F-5 is anything but ideal for carrier landing practice as it is not a carrier capable aircraft.
If one want to learn carrier landings with F/A-18 then the IDEAL trainer is.....F/A-18 and nothing else.
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Old 01-10-2019, 05:42 PM   #42
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You can practice anything you wish


F-5 is anything but ideal for carrier landing practice as it is not a carrier capable aircraft.
If one want to learn carrier landings with F/A-18 then the IDEAL trainer is.....F/A-18 and nothing else.

You better practice reading my friend first, I never said "If one want to learn carrier landings with F/A-18 then the IDEAL trainer is F5".

Also, please learn the aviation history a bit. F5 was originally proposed as a carrier capable aircraft, and even though that requirement was removed at a later development stage the F5 kept that capability. The arresting hook and a AOA indexer stayed as a part of that implementation. Even more, there was a two seat version developed as a trainer.

As for beginners - I would stay away from FA-18 until you learn proper instruments/avionics, otherwise you become a HUD monkey.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:03 PM   #43
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You better practice reading my friend first, I never said "If one want to learn carrier landings with F/A-18 then the IDEAL trainer is F5".

Also, please learn the aviation history a bit. F5 was originally proposed as a carrier capable aircraft, and even though that requirement was removed at a later development stage the F5 kept that capability. The arresting hook and a AOA indexer stayed as a part of that implementation. Even more, there was a two seat version developed as a trainer.

As for beginners - I would stay away from FA-18 until you learn proper instruments/avionics, otherwise you become a HUD monkey.
F16 has AOA indexer and a tail hook? is it carrier capable. No.


the tailhook is there for emergency landings on actual airfields, or for securing an aircraft for
maintenance engine testing

AN AOA indexer isn't exclusive for carrier based aircraft, its a useful nice to have aid for landing in general.

and 2 seat trainer, IE F5F? Yea just about every single seat combat aircraft has a 2 seat "trainer version" that pilots fly before completing training and getting an official assignment to thier own aircraft within a squadron.

IE F-16B/D, or F/A18B/D. are combat trainers of thier single seat counterparts.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:39 AM   #44
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Also, please learn the aviation history a bit. F5 was originally proposed as a carrier capable aircraft, and even though that requirement was removed at a later development stage the F5 kept that capability. The arresting hook and a AOA indexer stayed as a part of that implementation. Even more, there was a two seat version developed as a trainer.
As Kev2go already said: The hook is not for carrier landings, but for use with emergency arresting systems on land based airfields. They are used throughout NATO and pretty much all NATO fighters are equipped with hooks AFAIK. Here in Germany the Tornado as well as the Eurofighter are also equipped with tailhooks for that very purpose. That doesn't enable them to land on carriers though...
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:20 PM   #45
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Any aircraft with a tailhook is capable of one carrier landing and in DCS, one is all you need since you can be issued a new plane at the press of a button.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:20 PM   #46
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F5A/E was designed initially for suitablility for carrier landings? Where did you get that information?

What a riot!
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:13 AM   #47
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The airplane is nice but it is dedicated to the AA and much less to the AG where it is very deficient, no dedicated avionics, no HUDs, etc ..


It's actually the opposite.
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