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Majo

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Salutes to all!

 

First of all, I am new to the platform and to the DCS world; my previous experience has been related to IL2.

 

Said so, I must say am having a great deal of problems in order to correctly assigned axis in the controls table, that is:

- Double input to axis, like mouse and stick or interferences between throttle, rudder and stick.

- Difficult to identify axis in the command table. (I fly with CH Hotas + Rudder pedals + Trackir).

 

I am not saying things do not work, they just do not do it as I expected.:joystick:

 

Like I said my configuration is CH FSPTPP + TrackIR. CH Control Manager 4.5 and I have removed all previous scripts or

shortcuts applied to other simulators.

 

Please can any kind soul help me in my first steps in axis assignment?

Maybe the information is there and I do not know where to look at...

 

Thanking you in advance.

 

Majo

"It was as if an angel is pushing you..."

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Welcome to DCS!

 

First you have to select the appropriate mode in the controls screen. I suggest you fly in sim mode, so select p-51 sim.

 

After that you have to select the axis commands from the pull down menu.

Then you should clear all assignments for the axis on all devices. For that you click on an assignment and then click "clear category" on the top of the screen.

 

Then you can assign the axis you want by simply double clicking the entry and moving the axis you want to assign. Dont forget to tune the axis afterwards, where you can set curvature, deadzones, etc and maybe invert the axis.

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As mentioned above clear all Axis settings before doing anything else.

 

A couple of pointers...

 

If you run a combined map in the CH manager, you will see 1 CH device in DCS to assign Axis/Buttons to.

 

If you keep the controllers separate, the order of the tabs in CH Manager (FS/PT/PP etc.) dictates the order in DCS. So if your FS is the first tab in CH Manager, then it will be CH device 1 in DCS settings.

 

I always have to invert the Axis for toe brakes in DCS. So make sure your brakes are off when not depressed (Right Control + Enter in game will bring up a window showing your controller positions and current trim settings).

 

Make sure you have your map loaded before launching DCS. I have had strange results when switching between games (RoF, IL2, DCS) and forgetting to load the correct map first.

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Well, thank you very much for the help!!! :thumbup:

 

Clearing the Axis settings made the trick.

Now everything goes fine.

I can foresee some hours of axis tuning and key assigning...

 

Salutes.

"It was as if an angel is pushing you..."

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Well, thank you very much for the help!!! :thumbup:

 

Clearing the Axis settings made the trick.

Now everything goes fine.

I can foresee some hours of axis tuning and key assigning...

 

Salutes.

 

Two guys that are real CH gurus are the guy named Crunch here and to LockOn is quite the CH programmer into scripts and Shift commands to get more buttons out of the CH Control Manager.

 

Bob Church is the guy to CH Hanger for help and Revin and a guy named Ghost which I suspect is Crunch.

 

Konkussion here was very helpful to me with the Warthog, but I have not seen him posting in quite awhile.

 

I created my own .map based on my Aces High profile for the CH Control Manager for the P-51D out of necessity. I modified it and renamed it specific for DCS World. I am not too fond of Track IR 5, but I allowed for it. If I pause TIR5, I then can use my view hats instead, and if I want, jump back to TIR5. My CH gear is Fighterstick, PT and PP all USB. Konkussion helped me the most with DCS. I use the Black Shark profile by Crunch that works for BS1 and BS2 and he or somebody gave me a mess of tutorials learning about the Control Manager, but I am still a novice at it. If I can do it, anybody can.


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I have a CH map adapted from my DCS A-10 profile, which is such a mercy, as most of the generic commands are the same in all DCS sims, such as all the view commands, gear, flaps, etc. It has TIR worked in as well. PM me if you want me to send it to you.

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I am using the CH Fighterstick, Pro Throttle, Throttle Quad, and Pro Pedals in a combined map. I showed the same issue on my first start-up of the game. The game will have a bunch of pre-assigned axis listed -even multi-assigned axis to one function on all controllers. Ignore that and manually delete them all. Once you've cleaned out all that, start assigning each axis manually to the function you want them to.

 

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Crunch, are you or Ken King intending to make a CMC file, or a profile, for DCS P-51?

 

Hi Bahger, no plans sorry. For one, the real P51 had no hotas, and also I am using my MS Sidewinder FFB2 stick instead of my CH stick.

 

Maybe someday CH will release a FF stick. I really hope they do.

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// Command File
// Game: DCS P51D Mustang
// By: Ken King
// Date: 5.1.2012
// NOTE: Some assignable functions have not been
// assigned keys/macros in-game. You'll have to do
// this in-game and add them to the commands
// below annotated by, NOT ASSIGNED. Be sure to
// remove the // before the command description
// and replace NOT ASSIGNED with your key/macro.
// GENERAL
//
Briefing-Window ALT b
Exit-Mission ESC
Reload-Cockpit-(debug) RWIN r
Toggle-Console-(debug) `
Controls-Indicator RCTL ENT
Coordinates-Units-Change ALT y
Clickable-Mouse-Cockpit-Mode-On/Off ALT c
Explosion-(cheat) CTL X
Pause PAUSE
Pause-Active LWIN CHARDLY SHF PAUSE
One-Frame-Mode RSHF PAUSE
Info-Bar-View-Toggle Y
Jump-Into-Selected-Aircraft RALT j
Multiplayer-Chat-Mode-All RCTL m
Multiplayer-Chat-Mode-Allies RALT m
Rearming-And-Refueling-Window ALT -
Score-Window '
Screenshot PRTSC
Show-Debriefing-Window RSHF -
// Show-Pilot NOT ASSIGNED
// FLIGHT CONTROLS
//
Engine-RPM-Decrease KBPGDN
Engine-RPM-Increase KBPGUP
Mixture-EMERGENCY-FULL-RICH ALT m
Mixture-IDLE-CUT-OFF M
Mixture-RUN CTL m
Mixture-Control-(rotary) m
Propeller/Mixture-Lock ALT x
Propeller/Mixture-Unlock ALT CHARDLY X
Trim-Aileron-Left RCTL ,
Trim-Aileron-Right RCTL /
Trim-Elevator-Down RCTL ;
Trim-Elevator-Up RCTL .
Trim-Rudder-Left RCTL z
Trim-Rudder-Right RCTL x
Trimmers-Reset CTL t
Flaps-Down f
Flaps-Up F
// ENGINE CONTROL PANEL
//
Fuel-Booster KBDEL
High-Blower-Lamp-Test L
Primer KBINS
Starter KBHOME
Starter-Switch-Cover RSHF KBHOME
Supercharger-Switch-AUTO RALT s
Supercharger-Switch-Cover RCTL CHARDLY RSHF s
Supercharger-Switch-HIGH RSHF s
Supercharger-Switch-LOW RCTL s
Start-Engine-(cheat) RWIN KBHOME
Stop-Engine-(cheat) RWIN KBEND
// Oil-Dilute NOT ASSIGNED
// RADIATOR AIR CONTROLS
//
Radiator-Coolant-Auto a
Radiator-Coolant-Close CTL a
Radiator-Coolant-Cover CTL CHARDLY A
Radiator-Coolant-Open ALT a
Radiator-Oil-Close CTL s
Radiator-Oil-Auto  s
Radiator-Oil-Cover CTL CHARDLY S
Radiator-Oil-Open ALT s
// CARBURETOR AIR CONTROLS
//
Warm-Air-Control-To-HOT CTL h
Warm-Air-Control-To-NORMAL ALT h
Cold-Air-Control-To-RAM H
Cold-Air-Control-To-UNRAMMED FILTERED CTL CHARDLY H
// FRONT DASH
//
Altimeter-Pressure-Set-Decrease CTL b
Altimeter-Pressure-Set-Increase B
Clock-Winding/Adjust RSHF q
Clock-Winding/Adjust-Decrease RCTL q
Clock-Winding/Adjust-Increase RALT q
Compass-Course-Decrease RALT c
Compass-Course-Increase RCTL c
Directional-Gyro-Cage/Uncage RSHF g
Directional-Gyro-Heading-Decrease RALT g
Directional-Gyro-Heading-Increase RCTL g
Horizon-Cage V
Horizon-Cage-Knob-OFF ALT v
Horizon-Cage-Knob-ON CTL v
Horizon-Pitch-Decrease RCTL v
Horizon-Pitch-Increase RALT v
// SYSTEMS
//
Bailout CTL e
Bomb-Salvo-Release-Left CTL SPC
Bomb-Salvo-Release-Right RCTL SPC
Canopy-Closing C
Canopy-Opening CTL c
Canopy-Emergency-Release CTL CHARDLY C
Wheel-Brake-Both w
Wheel-Brake-Left CTL w
Wheel-Brake-Parking CTL ALT w
Wheel-Brake-Right ALT w
Oxygen-Regulator-Deluter-Lever-Auto-Mix-On/Off RSHF b
Oxygen-Regulator-Emergency-By-Pass-Valve RCTL b
// Hydraulic-Emergency-Release-Knob NOT ASSIGNED
// Landing-Gear-Safe-Light-Test NOT ASSIGNED
// Landing-Gear-Unsafe-Light-Test NOT ASSIGNED
// RIGHT SWITCH PANEL
//
Battery b
Generator v
Gun-Heat ALT CHARDLY C
Position-Light-Tail-(rotary) i
Position-Light-Tail-BRIGHT RALT i
Position-Light-Tail-DIM RCTL i
Position-Light-Tail-OFF RSHF i
Position-Lights-Wing-(rotary) u
Position-Lights-Wing-BRIGHT RALT u
Position-Lights-Wing-DIM RCTL u
Position-Lights-Wing-OFF RSHF u
Recognition-Light-Amber-(rotary) CTL i
Recognition-Light-Amber-Key ALT i
Recognition-Light-Amber-Off I
Recognition-Light-Amber-Steady CTL CHARDLY I
Recognition-Light-Green-(rotary) CTL u
Recognition-Light-Green-Key ALT u
Recognition-Light-Green-Off U
Recognition-Light-Green-Steady CTL CHARDLY U
Recognition-Light-Red-(rotary) RCTL y
Recognition-Light-Red-Key RALT y
Recognition-Light-Red-Off RSHF y
Recognition-Light-Red-Steady RCTL CHARDLY RSHF y
Recognition-Lights-Key y
// Circuit-Protectors-Cover NOT ASSIGNED
// FRONT SWITCH BOX
//
Bomb-Arming-SW-Left-Rotate 6
Bomb-Arming-SW-Left-ARM CTL 6
Bomb-Arming-SW-Left-CHEM-REL ALT 6
Bomb-Arming-SW-Left-OFF ^
Bomb-Arming-SW-Right-Rotate 7
Bomb-Arming-SW-Right-ARM CTL 7
Bomb-Arming-SW-Right-CHEM-REL ALT 7
Bomb-Arming-SW-Right-OFF &
Bomb-Rocket-Selector-Switch-Rotate d
Bomb-Rocket-Selector-Switch-BOTH CTL d
Bomb-Rocket-Selector-Switch-ROCKETS D
Bomb-Rocket-Selector-Switch-SAFE CTL CHARDLY D
Bomb-Rocket-Selector-Switch-TRAIN ALT d
Gun-Safety-Switch-(rotary) q
Gun-Safety-Switch-CAMERA-SIGHT ALT q
Gun-Safety-Switch-GUN-CAMERA-SIGHT CTL q
Gun-Safety-Switch-OFF Q
Ignition-Switch-(rotary) KBEND
Ignition-Switch-BOTH RCTL KBEND
Ignition-Switch-OFF RSHF KBEND
Silence-Horn RALT h
// Ignition-Switch-Left NOT ASSIGNED
// Ignition-Switch-Right NOT ASSIGNED
// K-14 GUNSIGHT
//
Gunsight-Brightness-Decrease RALT o
Gunsight-Brightness-Increase RCTL o
Gunsight-Fixed-Ring-Blanc-Lever 5
Gunsight-Gyromotor-Power RSHF o
Gunsight-Mode-(rotary) 1
Gunsight-Mode-FIXED 4
Gunsight-Mode-FIXED-GYRO 3
Gunsight-Mode-GYRO 2
Gunsight-Range-To-Target-Decrease .
Gunsight-Range-To-Target-Increase ;
Gunsight-Target-Span-Decrease ,
Gunsight-Target-Span-Increase /
// ROCKET CONTROL PANEL
//
Rocket-Counter-Reset ALT 8
Rockets-Release-Control-Switch-(rotary) 8
Rockets-Release-Control-Switch-AUTO RALT 8
Rockets-Release-Control-Switch-OFF RSHF 8
Rockets-Release-Control-Switch-SINGLE RCTL 8
// Rockets-Delay/Inst NOT ASSIGNED
// STICK
//
Weapon-Release RALT SPC
Gun-Fire SPC
// VHF RADIO
//
Radio-Power CTL `
Radio-Mode-R CTL 5
Radio-Mode-T ALT 5
Radio-Mode-REM %
Radio-Chanel-A CTL 1
Radio-Chanel-B CTL 2
Radio-Chanel-C CTL 3
Radio-Chanel-D CTL 4
Radio-Mode-Switch-Locking-Lever CTL ALT 5
VHF-Radio-Volume-Decrease RCTL 6
VHF-Radio-Volume-Increase RALT 6
// Radio-Lights-Dimmer-Decrease NOT ASSIGNED
// Radio-Lights-Dimmer-Increase NOT ASSIGNED
// REAR WARNING RADAR
//
Rear-Warning-Radar-Power r
Rear-Warning-Radar-Test R
Rear-Warning-Radar-Signal-Light-Decrease CTL r
Rear-Warning-Radar-Signal-Light-Increase ALT r
// ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS
//
Landing Light l
Cockpit-Fluorescent-Light-Left-Decrease CTL n
Cockpit-Fluorescent-Light-Left-Increase N
Cockpit-Fluorescent-Light-Right-Decrease RCTL n
Cockpit-Fluorescent-Light-Right-Increase RSHF n
// Air-Cold-Decrease NOT ASSIGNED
// Air-Cold-Increase NOT ASSIGNED
// Air-Hot-Decrease NOT ASSIGNED
// Air-Hot-Increase NOT ASSIGNED
// Defroster-Decrease NOT ASSIGNED
// Defroster-Increase NOT ASSIGNED
// DETROLA RECEIVER
//
// Detrola-Frequency-Selector-Decrease NOT ASSIGNED
// Detrola Frequency Selector-Increase NOT ASSIGNED
// Detrola-Volume-Decrease NOT ASSIGNED
// Detrola-Volume-Increase NOT ASSIGNED
// HOMING ADAPTER
//
// Homing-Adapter-COMM NOT ASSIGNED
// Homing-Adapter-CW/MCW NOT ASSIGNED
// Homing-Adapter-Circuit-Breaker NOT ASSIGNED
// Homing-Adapter-HOMING NOT ASSIGNED
// Homing-Adapter-Mode NOT ASSIGNED
// Homing-Adapter-TRANS NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF SYSTEMS
//
// IFF-Code NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF-Code-Decrease NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF-Code-Increase NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF-Detonator-Circuit-On/Off NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF-Detonator-Left NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF-Detonator-Right NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF-Distress-Signal NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF-Mode NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF-OFF NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF-ON NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF-Power On/Off NOT ASSIGNED
// IFF-TIME NOT ASSIGNED
// SENSORS
//
Night-Vision-Goggles RSHF h
Night-Vision-Goggles-Gain-Down RALT CHARDLY RSHF h
Night-Vision-Goggles-Gain-Up RALT CHARDLY RCTL h
// COMMUNICATIONS
//
Communication-Menu \
Switch-Dialog |
Switch-To-Main-Menu CTL \
Toggle-Formation-(easy-comm-only) LWIN t
Ask-AWACS-Home-Airbase-(easy-comm-only) LWIN u
Attack-Air-Defenses-(easy-comm-only) LWIN d
Attack-Ground-Targets-(easy-comm-only) LWIN g
Attack-My-Target-(easy-comm-only) LWIN q
Dispatch-Wingman-COMPL-MSN-RTB-(easy-comm-only) LWIN e
Dispatch-Wingman-COMPL-MSN-Rejoin-(easy-comm-only) LWIN r
Join-Up-Formation-(easy-comm-only) LWIN y
Cover-Me-(easy-comm-only) LWIN w
// KNEEBOARD
//
Kneeboard-Next-Page ]
Kneeboard-Previous-Page [
Kneeboard-ON/OFF RSHF k
Kneeboard-Current-Position-Mark-Point RCTL k
Kneeboard-Glance-View k
// LABELS
//
Labels-Aircraft SHF F2
Labels-All SHF F10
Labels-Missile SHF F6
Labels-Vehicle&Ship SHF F9
// VIEW COCKPIT
//
Camera-View-Down RCTL KP2 
Camera-View-Down-Slow RALT KP2
Camera-View-Down-Left RCTL KP1
Camera-View-Down-Left-Slow RCTL KP1
Camera-View-Down-Right RALT KP3
Camera-View-Down-Right-Slow RCTL KP3
Camera-View-Left RCTL KP4
Camera-View-Left-Slow RALT KP4
Camera-View-Right RCTL KP6
Camera-View-Right-Slow RALT KP6
Camera-View-Up RCTL KP8
Camera-View-Up-Slow RALT KP8
Camera-View-Up-Left RCTL KP7
Camera-View-Up-Left-Slow RALT KP7
Camera-View-Up-Right RCTL 3
Camera-View-Up-Right-Slow RALT KP3
Cockpit-Camera-Move-Center RCTL CHARDLY RSHF KP5
Cockpit-Camera-Move-Down RCTL CHARDLY RSHF KP2
Cockpit-Camera-Move-Forward RCTL CHARDLY RSHF KP*
Cockpit-Camera-Move-Left RCTL CHARDLY RSHF KP4
Cockpit-Camera-Move-Right RCTL CHARDLY RSHF KP6
Cockpit-Camera-Move-Up RCTL CHARDLY RSHF KP8
Cockpit-Panel-View-In KP0
Cockpit-Panel-View-Toggle RCTL KP0
Return-Camera-Base RALT KP5
Save-Cockpit-Angles RALT KP0
// VIEWS
//
Cockpit-View F1
HUD-Only-View ALT F1
Head-Shift-Movement-On/Off LWIN F1
Natural-Head-Movement-View CTL F1
Theater-Map-View-Over-Current-Point CTL F10
Theater-Map-View F10
Airport-Free-Camera F11
Jump-To-Free-Camera CTL F11
Camera-Moving-Backward ALT KP/
Camera-Moving-Forward ALT KP*
Civil-Traffic-View CTL F12
Static-Object-View F12
Trains/Cars-Toggle SHF F12
Aircraft-View F2
Toggle-Camera-Position RALT F2
Toggle-Local-Camera-Control ALT F2
View-Own-Aircraft CTL F2
Fly-By-Jump-View CTL F3
Fly-By-View F3
Arcade-View F4
Chase-View CTL F4
Look-Back-View SHF F4
Ground-Hostile-View CTL F5
Nearest-AC-View F5
Released-Weapon-View F6
Weapon-To-Target-View CTL F6
Ground-JFO/JTAC-View CTL F7
Ground-Unit-View F7
Landing-Signal-Officer-View ALT F9
Ship-View F9
Mouse-Turn-Rate-Fast {
Mouse-Turn-Rate-Normal ALT [
Mouse-Turn-Rate-Slow CTL [
Zoom-External-In RCTL KP*
Zoom-External-Normal RCTL KPENT
Zoom-External-Out RCTL KP/
Zoom-In RSHF KP*
Zoom-In-Slow KP*
Zoom-Normal KPENT
Zoom-Out RSHF KP/
Zoom-Out-Slow KP/
// VIEW PADLOCK
//
Padlock-Off-(stop-padlock) NUMLOCK
Padlock-Cycle KP.
Padlock-Missile-Threat RALT KP.
Padlock-Missiles-All RSHF KP.
Padlock-Terrain-Point RCTL KP.
// VIEW EXTENDED
//
Object-Exclude ALT KBDEL
Objects-All-Excluded-Include ALT KBINS
Objects-Switching-Direction-Forward CTL KBPGDN
Objects-Switching-Direction-Reverse CTL KBPGUP
// SNAP VIEWS
//
Snap-View-0 LWIN KP0
Snap-View-1 LWIN KP1
Snap-View-2 LWIN KP2
Snap-View-3 LWIN KP3
Snap-View-4 LWIN KP4
Snap-View-5 LWIN KP5
Snap-View-6 LWIN KP6
Snap-View-7 LWIN KP7
Snap-View-8 LWIN KP8
Snap-View-9 LWIN KP9

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Ghost and I are not the same person. I am more handsome :)

 

Glad the problem was solved. Head on over to www.ch-hangar.com for all things CH. The forums are excellent. Bob Church is brilliant and will help in any way possible.

 

He says looking into a mirror asking "Who's the fairest one of all..."

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  • 6 years later...

I tried to make a cmc file but it wasn't recognised in CH manager.

 

I try to make profiles from other profiles but flight simming is for the extreme patient and I aint.

 

I have read the dummies guide for the Ch hotas and the section on making a cmc file is very vague and I tried what they told me in the pdf but CH Manager does not recognise the file.


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