mattag08 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 As the title says, multiple members of my squadron have all experienced an identical bug. When playing as a RIO in multiplayer, upon entering the runway DCS will experience an error and the crash dialogue box will appear (e.g. it is not a hard crash straight to desktop). It is occurring at approximately the time that the ATC options normally appear and/or you get an ATC notification about taking off on the runway. I suspect the dialog box or ATC could be related. At least 4 people have all had an identical crash playing as RIOs. I was able to restart the game and join in to the backseat again as a RIO with no further issues. Flying the DCS: F-14B from Heatblur Simulations with Carrier Strike Group 2 and the VF-154 Black Knights! I also own: Ka-50 2, A-10C, P-51D, UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, FC3, F-86F, CA, Mig-15bis, Mig-21bis, F/A-18C, L-39, F-5E, AV-8B, AJS-37, F-16C, Mig-19P, JF-17, C-101, and CEII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 We've had exactly the same situation in yesterday's training. We've had a flight of 3 Tomcats taking off from Senaki. Upon entry to the RW09, everyone in the backseat had some kind of CTD. In my case there was no crash dialogue but the game froze and I had to kill the DCS process. Upon re-entry in the cockpit I've experienced de-sync issues. The most annoying one was that the UHF1 radio froze on one frequency for me in the back seat. AMD R7 5800X3D | Aorus B550 Pro | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 4080 | VKB MGC Pro Gunfighter Mk III + Thustmaster TWCS + VKB T-Rudder Mk4 | HP Reverb G2 FC3 | A-10C II | Ка-50 | P-51 | UH-1 | Ми-8 | F-86F | МиГ-21 | FW-190 | МиГ-15 | Л-39 | Bf 109 | M-2000C | F-5 | Spitfire | AJS-37 | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Як-52 | F-14 | F-16 | Ми-24 | AH-64 NTTR | Normandy | Gulf | Syria | Supercarrier | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGG Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 My human RIO had this occur twice last night on the current Open Beta build. Airport was Kutaisi, initially we thought it might be something to do with the Auto wing sweep, but the 2nd crash only brakes/throttle/stick were being used. After reconnecting various desync issues occurred, first time the RIO could see the wings full forwards when they were aft, the next time he was seeing the landing gear down when they were up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 if you get a non-hard crash (i.e. you get a dialogue box of some kind) can you please upload your crashdump? It would be very helpful! Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyrovague Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 FWIW, I've tried reproducing this in MP (human pilot and human RIO) at various airports and with various radio calls (ranging from neither slot doing anything and just receiving the default automatic DCS ATC progression from taxi onto runway and takeoff, to doing various ATC request/replies from both pilot and RIO) and so far have not had any crashes, using latest openbeta release (from a day or two ago). I guess there must be something unique to the crashes others are experiencing here, so would really appreciate a crash log. ____________ Heatblur Simulations [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) Same here. RIO gets a CTD as soon as we roll onto the runway at Kutaisi (haven't tried other airports). I attached the mission where it happened. Edit: Maximus was my RIO who crashed.CoopTraining2.miz Edited April 26, 2019 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Decimus Meridius Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I guess there must be something unique to the crashes others are experiencing here, so would really appreciate a crash log. Same here. RIO gets a CTD as soon as we roll onto the runway at Kutaisi (haven't tried other airports). poor RIO here. Tried it yesterday and today multiple times. When we roll onto the runway my game crashes and ask me to send a report. my last 4 crashlogs are attached. hopefully it helps you.dcs.log-20190426-161710.zipdcs.log-20190426-160328.zipdcs.log-20190425-212659.zipdcs.log-20190425-211202.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper2097 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Same here, RIO crashes as soon as the runway is entered and the radio calls. (Tried at Bandar Abbas, north, Radio called start up and taxi to runway) Steam user - Youtube I am for quality over quantity in DCS modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Right now we're operating under the assumption that this is a DCS bug and it may already have been fixed internally. We're continuing to investigate to ensure that it is in fact so. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 And here's the crash log :)dcs.log-20190426-191008.zip AMD R7 5800X3D | Aorus B550 Pro | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 4080 | VKB MGC Pro Gunfighter Mk III + Thustmaster TWCS + VKB T-Rudder Mk4 | HP Reverb G2 FC3 | A-10C II | Ка-50 | P-51 | UH-1 | Ми-8 | F-86F | МиГ-21 | FW-190 | МиГ-15 | Л-39 | Bf 109 | M-2000C | F-5 | Spitfire | AJS-37 | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Як-52 | F-14 | F-16 | Ми-24 | AH-64 NTTR | Normandy | Gulf | Syria | Supercarrier | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Thanks! All of these dumps are consistent with a DCS bug that causes a multicrew crash. It's fixed internally, but I have no information whether it will be hotfixed or not. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper2097 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Thanks for clarification! As there are not always fixes (or good news), it is still worth so much to get a respond! Steam user - Youtube I am for quality over quantity in DCS modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz_44 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Since there won't be an update today, is there a known workaround for this issue? Anyway to disable ATC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper2097 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I have no workaround found so far, even turning of the radio did not help. Just wait on the runway until your RIO joined the session again ;). Steam user - Youtube I am for quality over quantity in DCS modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Maverick Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Since there won't be an update today, is there a known workaround for this issue? Anyway to disable ATC? Takeoff then get your RIO to join seems to work pretty well. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 104th Phoenix Wing Commander / Total Poser / Elitist / Hero / Chad www.104thPhoenix.com www.facebook.com/104thPhoenix My YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Fix for this will appear in the May 8th patch. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PVI_Eagle Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Attached my crashlogdcs.log-20190504-103703.zip [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Good to know, came looking for a reason, was Kutaisi, RIO only, as soon as entered the runway. I had the feeling it was ATC messaging related because I don't know many things other than the ATC firing when entering the runway only. Looking forward to the patch. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter5 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Cobra, could you please confirm, weather the fix made to the today's patch or not? I checked the dcs log after updating to version 2.5.4.30386, but I can't really see any reference to the Tomcat being updated :helpsmilie: :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimmergloom667 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Cobra, could you please confirm, weather the fix made to the today's patch or not? I checked the dcs log after updating to version 2.5.4.30386, but I can't really see any reference to the Tomcat being updated :helpsmilie: :cry: Even then you could have noticed... :) "MP. Fixed crash on the taxi in the multiseater aircraft." i7 - 9700K | 32 GB DDR4 3200 | RTX 2080 | VKB Gunfighter Mk II /w MCG Pro | Virpil T-50CM2 Throttle | TrackIR 5 | VKB Mk. IV AJS-37 | A/V-8B | A-10C | F-14A/B | F-16C | F-18C | F-86F | FC3 | JF-17 | Ka-50 | L-39 | Mi-8 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19 | MiG-21bis | M2000-C | P-51D | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | UH-1H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter5 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 :doh: I need moar coffee Thank you! :thumbup: Even then you could have noticed... :) "MP. Fixed crash on the taxi in the multiseater aircraft." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 The core DCS change log appears to mention this, expect it to be fixed by ED. I know the change logs are nto well detailed but; MP. Fixed crash on the taxi in the multiseater aircraft. Is what I think this is. Will see soon enough. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) Cobra, could you please confirm, weather the fix made to the today's patch or not? I checked the dcs log after updating to version 2.5.4.30386, but I can't really see any reference to the Tomcat being updated The bug effected the C-101CC, etc. as well, it wasn't F-14B specific DCS 2.5.4.30386 Open Beta > DCS World • MP. Fixed crash on the taxi in the multiseater aircraft. Note: I've still to test the new build. Edited May 8, 2019 by Ramsay i9 9900K @4.7GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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