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Old 08-12-2019, 06:33 AM   #41
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Really interesting data you found =) Sounds like you have the reasonable options outlined. Probably be a while before it gets done, though
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Old 08-12-2019, 10:39 AM   #42
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What about export Sabres (e.g. the Taiwanese ones)? Would those have both AIM-9 capability and the 6-3 wing?
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Old 08-12-2019, 12:42 PM   #43
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@Kev2Go, nice research, this is interesting information, I'm quite surprised ED didn't exactly model a RL F-86 since they are so anal about features and weapons in their other modules (e.g. the F-5 loadout / avionics are very limited because they chose to model an very rare and specific lot)...
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Old 08-12-2019, 01:08 PM   #44
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Kev2go, good researches, this and about F-5!
Removing missile is a bad choice, and the other choice is very long. Also, this makes mavericks on F-5 nearly impossible, I assume.
I think that the choice of certain features was a kind of a compromise between opportunity and desire.

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Old 08-12-2019, 01:27 PM   #45
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Kev2go, good researches, this and about F-5!
Removing missile is a bad choice, and the other choice is very long. Also, this makes mavericks on F-5 nearly impossible, I assume.
I think that the choice of certain features was a kind of a compromise between opportunity and desire.



I'm sorry, could you explain this idiom?
haha, sure! In English (especially American English) is a way of describing someone who pays extreme attention to details, so nothing offensive despite word "anal" in it
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:06 PM   #46
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I think a possible solution of this is to update the module at some point and split it into a few variants. If there are significant enough changes they could do something like they are doing with the KA50 of offering a free upgrade to folks that already bought it, and having an add on version or two for some additional cost. I.e. a correct Korean war version, and a later upgraded version, perhaps aim-9 upgraded versions as used by Taiwan or Pakistan that also saw "action". I'm not sure how much the aerodynamics would change with the different wings, but I'm sure that would require some additional work.
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:47 AM   #47
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I think a possible solution of this is to update the module at some point and split it into a few variants. If there are significant enough changes they could do something like they are doing with the KA50 of offering a free upgrade to folks that already bought it, and having an add on version or two for some additional cost. I.e. a correct Korean war version, and a later upgraded version, perhaps aim-9 upgraded versions as used by Taiwan or Pakistan that also saw "action". I'm not sure how much the aerodynamics would change with the different wings, but I'm sure that would require some additional work.

Slats allow for a higher maximum AoA, so they obviously would be an improvement. They don't have the fences because the slats themselves already reduce the risk of a runaway stall.
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:46 AM   #48
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I'm not sure how much the aerodynamics would change with the different wings, but I'm sure that would require some additional work.
Considerable work, since the whole high AoA and stall characteristics would need to be redesigned. Furthermore the approach speed with the slatted wing is 10kts lower.

@meti140; what's a 'runaway stall'? Never heard or read about such a stall.
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:42 AM   #49
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F-86F and F-5E-3 both had Mid-Life Updates/Changes that did not make it to the entire fleet.

Some F-86F's got New wings, other's didnt.

F-5E's Case, the USAF F-5E-3's of the Period Modelled did not have AGM-65.
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:49 PM   #50
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If this was a real Sabre, I wouldn’t be allowed to fly it. At least not an armed one. And if I were to do it anyway, and shoot some sod down with it, I’d be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

But this is a simulator, so I pretend I can do it anyway...

I wonder if anyone understood what I meant by that?
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