DmitriKozlowsky Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Either I seriously suck in my ACM F-15C skills or Mig-19 AI is F-16 Viper in disguise. "Cause I though that F-15C with only 2XAIM-9M, guns, and 50% fuel Vs. AI Mig-19 with 2XAA missiles and guns and 70% fuel, was going to be total cakewalk. With me in my Eagle, dominating and laughing at AI Gen2 polished aluminum skin. Instead I found myself in a vicious turning and burning fight, with a AI Viper (high skill) in disguise. I thought to myself, WTF! What exactly do we have here in this 70 years old Farmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) We have DCS AI spiced with famous Razbam quality. I put MiG-19 vs MiG-29, both AI on Excellent head on, guns only. MiG-19 always wins. Edited May 6, 2019 by some1 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DmitriKozlowsky Posted May 6, 2019 Author Share Posted May 6, 2019 In a AV-8B with 2X AIM-9M and guns, I have serious troubles , even in 1v1 against high skill Mig-19 AI with 2X AA missiles, no tanks, 70% fuel. AI Farmer totally dominates me with his ability to go to burners and open range.I tried to stall him in scissors, with my nozzles VIFFed to 60-65, my flaps down, brake out. At 130 KIAS, he is still flying and turning. No way, this can;t be with adv flight model! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 No way, this can;t be with adv flight model! The AI doesn't get an advanced flight model. i9 9900K @4.7GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti42 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 The AI uses something like this: ---------- AI Flight Parameters ----------- V_opt = 850 / 3.6,-- Cruise speed (for AI)* V_take_off = 63, -- Take off speed in m/s (for AI)* (122) V_land = 78, -- Land speed in m/s (for AI) V_max_sea_level = 1059/3.6, -- Max speed at sea level in m/s (for AI) V_max_h = 992/3.6 , -- Max speed at max altitude in m/s (for AI) Vy_max = 51, -- Max climb speed in m/s (for AI) Mach_max = 1.1, -- Max speed in Mach (for AI) Ny_min = -3, -- Min G (for AI) Ny_max = 8.0, -- Max G (for AI) Ny_max_e = 8.0, -- ?? Max G (for AI) AOA_take_off = 0.17, -- AoA in take off radians (for AI) bank_angle_max = 85, -- Max bank angle (for AI) flaps_maneuver = 0.5, -- Max flaps in take-off and maneuver (0.5 = 1st stage; 1.0 = 2nd stage) (for AI) range = 1390, -- Max range in km (for AI) Windows 10 64 bit | Intel i5-9600k OC 5 Ghz | RTX 2080 |VENGEANCE® LPX 32GB DDR 4 OC 3200 Hotas Warthog | Logitech G Flight Rudder Pedals | Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Yea it's a combination of how insane the AI is, and the Farmer's FM being messed up right now. There are reports that it currently can hold 7g without afterburner and supercruise, so to be picky you're not fighting a Viper, you're fighting a Eurofighter Typhoon in clean configuration ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DmitriKozlowsky Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 7g w/o burner and supercruise. Typhoon! Rafalle! GripenNG! More like F/A-22A, and maybe F-35A empty + clean. Maybe realworld SU-57. Maybe? This is not a Farmer. T.H.I.S.. IS.. D.C.S.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooch Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I wanted to find out myself so I setup an engagement between an AI Mig 29 and AI Mig 19. To my surprise the outcome was a draw and was quite epic... Track below.mig19 Ai vs mig 29 Ai.trk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=37.Sqn= Mjugen Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 7g w/o burner and supercruise. Typhoon! Rafalle! GripenNG! More like F/A-22A, and maybe F-35A empty + clean. Maybe realworld SU-57. Maybe? This is not a Farmer. T.H.I.S.. IS.. D.C.S.! MiG-19 is a fantasy at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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