Thanks ED , for hearing us !

Release version usually has the same problems as the open beta one.

THIS ^^

And it will lol

Gosh this keybind thing seems to send people on a massive rage. Its the nature of the beast called DCS Beta, and I think its not that bad honestly. But then again, my controls have been absolutely fine so I might be biased :D

So if im correct in saying is that this bug is in beta then moves to release, Release becomes beta :smartass:

Am most relieved to note that ED is attempting to deal with the bindings debacle . I'm referencing the general announcement posted today .

Where can this announcement be found?

Here ya go

https://forums.eagle.ru/announcement.php?f=437

Having been in several developer environments involving product and upgrade cycles, I don't find anything shocking about bugs popping up in the beta branch of such a complex product. No need to warn people there might be a bug, it's intrinsic to the branch.

 

Yes, that's exactly what I'd say, if you don't like that use the stable version.

 

And sometimes, sure, a few bugs will remain in a stable version. I know little software that doesn't have its share of bugs. Even if you put non-regression tests in place, there are just so many combinations and so many corner cases that you can't expect a perfect product, it wouldn't be viable economically. Even in medical applications you will not find a perfect product.

 

So if anyone can point to a complex and bug-free software with constant improvements and additions of new modules, just show the link and let's understand how they achieve that. Only then perhaps can you criticize constructively and propose solutions ;)

 

The only part that I personally find more frustrating to deal with is the bug reporting, but that's something else entirely.

I'm on the record as saying "rip off the bandaid and fix the controller setup once and for all EVEN if it means users having to do it again"

I'd prefer we didn't have to redo them. But I'm OK with redoing them.

But your analogy doesn't hold water. You're right that there are no bug free platforms. *BUT*. If you know you're going to change how users interact with your program, you have to let them know there's going to be a change.

Imagine if Microsoft Windows fall update changed everyone's keyboard to Dvorak w/o letting anyone know.

Hey with the MiG 29 update, has that been released? I play stable version and I don’t have any updates

Yes it has been and it is glorious.

So how do I update it? Nothing has come through as an update?

So how do I update it? Nothing has come through as an update?

Not sure it's in the stable version yet, here are a few pointers :)

You can see the latest announcements of the stable version here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3638932#post3638932

For the beta it's here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3650609#post3650609

Looks like the PFM made it in 2.5.3.22652, stable is only 2.5.3.22176.

You can also watch the 'real' current versions here (sometimes the threads above are late): http://update.eagle.ru/

And the whole log is here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=114030&p=2249076

NO. WRONG. I'm tired of hearing that. Since 2011, every time they update something they jack up something else. Every update includes some sort of jacking up of my input configurations. We've been dealing with this for the better part of a decade now. If the response is going to be "well don't fly Open Beta" well that doesn't work because broke stuff just gets put right into the stable branch. It's this stupid stuff that NEVER gets fixed. Constantly zorching people's inputs. Crash happy multiplayer code. All of it. That should NOT be "the nature of the beast".

 

Some things stop being OK after a while.

LOL