SmoglessPanic Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Hello, I'm not sure which Warbird to go with, I like the P-51 but watching videos it seems a bit neutered in DCS. The only other Warbird I would consider is the 109 but I do not like the K-4 variant I like the lighter F-4. Back to my question, please don't take this the wrong way. I been watching videos and reading a bit and the Pony seems a bit neutered compared to the other fighters why is that? Is this an variant of the D Mustang? From what I understood the Pony was overall better in all regimes than it's counterparts except for in certain specific scenarios. (I probably wrong it's just what I recall) I figured I would ask to gather as much info as possible, I will more than likely still go with the Pony as my first warbird but wanted to see if I could get some info from the people who fly her in DCS. DCS Warbird Wishlist: F4F-4 Wildcat F6F-4 Hellcat P-38-G/J/L (doesn't matter which) P-47 Jug (Already no the way and I cannot wait) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 An excellent ground attack platform and more than capable of A-to-A as well, provided that you know what you're doing and fly to its strengths. "Neutered" and "better in all regimes"? Completely untrue in DCS and RL both. We don't have the high-boost version and some think WEP breaks the engine too easily, but that may just be mismanagement since I've seen lots of folks grossly mishandling the bird doing no warmups before takeoff, etcetera. So I'm of the opinion that it's actually pretty good, although this comes from someone who's primarily a groundpounder with no recent A-to-A activity. So YMMV... The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 ...but suffice it to say regardless that it's been literally years since I've last blown the powerplant and I do push the bird quite hard at times. So IMO it's actually pretty much OK and I've got no complaints myself. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Hello, I'm not sure which Warbird to go with, I like the P-51 but watching videos it seems a bit neutered in DCS. The only other Warbird I would consider is the 109 but I do not like the K-4 variant I like the lighter F-4. Back to my question, please don't take this the wrong way. I been watching videos and reading a bit and the Pony seems a bit neutered compared to the other fighters why is that? Is this an variant of the D Mustang? From what I understood the Pony was overall better in all regimes than it's counterparts except for in certain specific scenarios. (I probably wrong it's just what I recall) I figured I would ask to gather as much info as possible, I will more than likely still go with the Pony as my first warbird but wanted to see if I could get some info from the people who fly her in DCS. DCS Warbird Wishlist: F4F-4 Wildcat F6F-4 Hellcat P-38-G/J/L (doesn't matter which) P-47 Jug (Already no the way and I cannot wait) In low to medium speeds it will loose by a lot vs bf109 k-4, during ww2 G version of bf109 was the most common fighter which p-51 faced, In that case P-51 looked much better. If i were you i would buy all birds :) System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Zach Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 We actually have a pretty low boost version of a P-51D. Unfortunately we don't have 150 octane. The P-51 isn't the prettiest in air combat, but if used right (and about the only way to), diving from above and get your speed up, you'll be just fine, so long as no enemy players are at a similar altitude to you. That's where a wingman is necessary. Air combat aside, it's a great beginner aircraft to get used to handling these types of aircraft. Despite its drawbacks, I'd still recommend it, particularly to learn fundamentals. Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32GB DDR4-3200, Samsung 860 EVO, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) We actually have a pretty low boost version of a P-51D. Unfortunately we don't have 150 octane. The P-51 isn't the prettiest in air combat, but if used right (and about the only way to), diving from above and get your speed up, you'll be just fine, so long as no enemy players are at a similar altitude to you. That's where a wingman is necessary. Air combat aside, it's a great beginner aircraft to get used to handling these types of aircraft. Despite its drawbacks, I'd still recommend it, particularly to learn fundamentals. I am reading through Some p-51 manula i found out that some p-51 were cleared for 81" boost i dont remember is it Canadian or Australina air force manual i will be back here later. Spits IX and Mustang IV were allowed 80" boost with 150 octane fuel in British airforce, same engine in US force was limited to 75" anyone have idea why? Maybe because of MP gage limit to 75" hehe :P Edited December 6, 2019 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Zach Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I am reading through Some p-51 manula i found out that some p-51 were cleared for 81" boost i dont remember is it Canadian or Australina air force manual i will be back here later. Spits IX and Mustang IV were allowed 80" boost with 150 octane fuel in British airforce, same engine in US force was limited to 75" anyone have idea why? Maybe because of MP gage limit to 75" hehe :PIn a particular other game, the P-51D has a different MP gauge that reads higher when 150 grade fuel is selected Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32GB DDR4-3200, Samsung 860 EVO, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) this is from Royal New Zealand p-51 manual 81" for 5 min when 150 grade fuel used They had nice p-51s :) Edited December 6, 2019 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 In a particular other game, the P-51D has a different MP gauge that reads higher when 150 grade fuel is selected Yes i know but sometime it is just easier to drop 5" then retrofit existing p-51 with new gage System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoglessPanic Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 I appreciate the input. Sounds more like flying a P-40 or rather using P-40 tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoglessPanic Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 In low to medium speeds it will loose by a lot vs bf109 k-4, during ww2 G version of bf109 was the most common fighter which p-51 faced, In that case P-51 looked much better. If i were you i would buy all birds :) I plan to! One bird at a time though..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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