BuzzU Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Somebody would be stupid to pay that kind of money and not research it. Then again some people have way too much money and spend it foolishly. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drPhibes Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 The G-6 ("Black 8") is not a Buchon conversion. Being a restoration of a crashed aircraft, there may ofcourse be a Buchon-based part here and there, but it's not just a Messerschmitt data plate riveted to a re-nosed HA-1112. However, the G-12 (two seater) they're selling is based on a Buchon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Thanks for the tip, I wasn't sure. Anyway still the "restoration" trick, even though it's a newly built aircraft after all. The G-6 ("Black 8") is not a Buchon conversion. Being a restoration of a crashed aircraft, there may ofcourse be a Buchon-based part here and there, but it's not just a Messerschmitt data plate riveted to a re-nosed HA-1112. However, the G-12 (two seater) they're selling is based on a Buchon.Still they also say (if it hasn't been changed in the latest days) it was built by Messerschmitt :doh: . S! Edited April 17, 2017 by Ala13_ManOWar "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonist Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I'm not as much into the WWII warbirds. I think I'd rather buy one of these: https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1403873/1995-canadair-cf5d https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1461433/mcdonnell-douglas-ta4j-skyhawk oh god men i fell in love with that 1995 CANADAIR CF5D its just so freaking beautiful I7 7700k - Msi Z270 Gaming+ GTX 1070ti 16gb @2400 2x Samsung 850EVO 250/500 - 1x HDD 1TB SAITEK-MAD CATZ CYBORG FLY 5 STICK WIN 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drPhibes Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 At least Meier Motors doesn't try to hide the fact that the G-12 used to be a Buchon: http://www.meiermotors.com/index.php/aircraft/messerschmitt-bf109/messerschmitt-bf109-g-12?showall=1&limitstart= (in German, but probably google translatable into something understandable for those who don't speak it). I assume that a complete rebuild history would be provided by Platinum Fighters to anyone considering buying this aircraft, so it's not like they're trying to fool someone into buying counterfeit goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) I assume that a complete rebuild history would be provided by Platinum Fighters to anyone considering buying this aircraft, so it's not like they're trying to fool someone into buying counterfeit goods.As I said I don't think so, nor I think anyone buying the aircraft for such and amount of money will just through it without any previous research. What is obvious here is that a "German built" tag is clearly used as a decoy and excuse for a ridiculously high price. Not my problem though as I'm not buying that warbird, just saying. Look at Platinum Fighters description (I have to think provided by seller). Not a single mention to G-12 being a Buchon first, then a G-2 or G-4, IIRC, "restoration", or better said conversion. Aircraft: Manufacturer: Messerschmitt Make: Bf-109 Model: G-12 Year: 1944 Registration: D-FMGZ Restored by Meier Motors History: The Messerschmitt BF-109G-12 is the trainer version of the Messerschmitt BF-109G. Starting in 1944, some BF-109G-2, BF-109G-3, BF-109G-4, and BF-109G-6's were converted to two seat trainers and designated as BF-109G-12;s. A second cockpit was installed for the instructor behind the pilot and a elongated canopy added. The so-called Rustsatze filed modification kits and Umrust-Bausatze factory conversion kits were part of a system promulgated by the RLM throughout the German military aviation industry.http://www.platinumfighters.com/messerschmitt-bf109g12 I'm not really sure about the commented G-6 not being a similar case. And it's even worst as I follow Meier motors in FB for the updates in restorations they perform (for instance they are currently working at an ex-Spanish Emil 1, though it seems they will be building an E-4 out of it…), but this G-6 is a bit of a mystery as it just popped up almost already in working condition and finished without much of a previous notice. Curiously enough, the several Texas barn Buchones were sold like a year ago, and now all of a sudden we have like 4-5 "new" Messerschmitt Bf109G reaching for the skies? :huh: Hmmmm, something is rotten in the state of Denmark. Don't get me wrong, I don't care for people paying more or less for the aircraft, that's not my point, but Buchon is still a Spanish built model and Spanish aeronautical History, so making them disappear saying they are German built just to raise the price tag is a big shame. S! Edited April 17, 2017 by Ala13_ManOWar "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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