Cyph3r Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I'd like to invite everyone to vote on our poll and let us know any comments regarding what you'd like to see from us next :joystick: https://forum.virpil.com/index.php?/topic/137-what-grip-should-virpil-make-next/ :thumbup: ► Website: www.virpil.com // ► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VirPilControls // ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/VirPilControls For support please email support@virpil.com to open a ticket! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Modern western jet grip to go along with all of the modern western jets we have, for certain :thumbup: VR Cockpit (link): Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + Otto switches | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper | VPC T-50 Base + 15cm Black Sahaj Extension + TM Hornet or Warthog Grip | Super Warthog Wheel Stand Pro | Steelcase Leap V2 + JetSeat SE VR Rig: Pimax 5K+ | ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti | Intel i7-9700K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | Corsair H115i RGB Platinum | 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 | Dell U3415W Curved 3440x1440 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 ^^THIS! MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguara5 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Mirage 2000C!! You won't find anything similar on the market , matches perfectly a current DCS full fidelity module, and of course it can be used with other modules. Otherwise a F-18 hotas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lighty Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Yep - beat Thrustmaster at their own game and get an F-18 stick out before they manage it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Voted Modern Western Fighter. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdee Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) Modern western or upgraded T-50. What is important is to have 5 way thumb button. My only issue with the grip. Please don't make more kosmos twist grips. One is enough :) One more thing, please don't make metal grips, they are way too heavy and no better than high quality plastic you use now. Edited November 27, 2018 by mdee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 An F-18 grip Tm will make...An F-14 grip VKB/HB "promised"... others western grips will don't offer nothing new than Tm "F-16'ish" models. An improved T-50 version - deviating from "replica" in favor of game usability, similar to MCG PRO approach seems the more logical option. Not very practical, but just for their vintage look I vote for Mig-21/Su-23 like grip. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintifaxl Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 One, that is readily available gets my vote ;-) Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barefoot Bandit Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Modern western or upgraded T-50. What is important is to have 5 way thumb button. My only issue with the grip. Please don't make more kosmos twist grips. One is enough :) One more thing, please don't make metal grips, they are way too heavy and no better than high quality plastic you use now. this. this this this this and this. Please. Z... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushy73 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Mirage 2000C!! You won't find anything similar on the market , matches perfectly a current DCS full fidelity module, and of course it can be used with other modules. Otherwise a F-18 hotas +1:joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Bushman Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Modern western or upgraded T-50. What is important is to have 5 way thumb button. My only issue with the grip. Please don't make more kosmos twist grips. One is enough :) One more thing, please don't make metal grips, they are way too heavy and no better than high quality plastic you use now. this. this this this this and this. Please. Z... I don't care about replicating a grip. Make something with enough axes, buttons and with a focus on ergonomics and input flexibility. For the latter I mean buttons for the rest of the fingers, not just thumb and index. This is the point where I find the Delta constellation fails at the most. And if you do make Twist, give us a mechanical option to lock the twist. With the Delta, all the buttons are under and competing for your thumb. This actually makes the stick less suitable for games like Elite where multiple presses are more common than in sims like DCS, even though thats the kind of games it's designed for !? I have so far switched back to the t50 grip simply because it's layout is so much better, and I'm missing the main feature, the thumb stick, more in DCS as a slew than in Elite dangerous and for thrusters. But the coup de grace on it, no pinky button. Then again, I have already pre-ordered a VKB MCG PRO to complete my HOSAS so I'm pretty much set I guess. Edited November 29, 2018 by Bob_Bushman i7 8700k @ 4.7, 32GB 2900Mhz, 1080ti, CV1 Virpil MT-50\Delta, MFG Crosswind, Warthog Throttle, Virptil Mongoost-50 throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb71 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I don't care about replicating a grip. Make something with enough axes, buttons and with a focus on ergonomics and input flexibility. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_neo Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Both, an upgraded T-50 version that has a 4 way + push down head like on the Warthog (a single button seems like wasted space) and a modern western style sick. And an upgraded gimbal base with adjustable friction for helicopter flight. This friction mechanism should be easily adjustable from the outside and have a switch which activates/deactivates this so that switching between helo flight and planes is just a switch of a button and does not mean loosening or tightening of screws. Edited November 29, 2018 by sc_neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Bushman Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Why limit to a 5-way hat on the t50 thumb rest. It would be the perfect spot, with some adjustment for a fully analog thumb stick for slew or whatever you want to use it as. i7 8700k @ 4.7, 32GB 2900Mhz, 1080ti, CV1 Virpil MT-50\Delta, MFG Crosswind, Warthog Throttle, Virptil Mongoost-50 throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Depends which aircraft you want to fly. Real aircraft don't have analog thumb stick there, but plenty have 5-way or 3-way hat there. (F-5, Mirage, A-10, F-15, F-16, F-18, AV-8 to name the few we have in DCS). On the other hand, in the F-14 there's DLC control that works like a thumb axis. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Bushman Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 For me the answer is "all of them". And having to switch grips and re-calibrate everytime I switch is just not going to happen. So I don't care aircraft X doesn't have this there or Y has what where. Is an analog slew thumb stick a good idea? Yes very. Would that be a good place for it? I think yea. i7 8700k @ 4.7, 32GB 2900Mhz, 1080ti, CV1 Virpil MT-50\Delta, MFG Crosswind, Warthog Throttle, Virptil Mongoost-50 throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Is an analog slew thumb stick a good idea? Yes very. Only if you have a throttle without one. Otherwise it is mostly redundant. Yeah, it can be made to work in the sim like a hat, but it doesn't feel as good, with no tactile feedback when activated. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdee Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Why limit to a 5-way hat on the t50 thumb rest. It would be the perfect spot, with some adjustment for a fully analog thumb stick for slew or whatever you want to use it as. Analog stick feel is not really suitable for what this button does in A10, F18, F16 and similar fighters. The other company grip has an analog stick where the trim is and it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgie79 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Western style grip, as long as it has a brake lever like the T-50 grip. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barefoot Bandit Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Seems most people on the VPC forum want another space grip... :joystick: Z... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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