Taz1004 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) So I just got back to DCS a month ago like many here and starting again with the SU-25T. And I'm having a lot of trouble with the Instant Action CAS Medium. The enemy forces are in the woods and blocking all my weapons. Looking at the Tacview, 4 SU-25T's were throwing everything at this one tank covered by trees on all sides and can't kill it with all the Vikhrs and 25L And this tank wasn't moving. Doesn't matter which angle. Also the accuracy of 25MPU... I fire 10, hit like 3 or 4. Is there accuracy mod or remove tree collision somewhere? Running latest OB. Edited May 21, 2020 by Taz1004 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yeah in the mission editor you can remove trees in a certain area Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 Thanks for clarifying that up. But how do you edit the Instant Action missions with ME? Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) By going to the appropriate directory and loading them. -edit Instant, not regular, nevermind. Don't know if you can modify instant action missions. Just create/use a similar mission, and do what you need to there. That said, tanks hiding in a forest is like... a normal, intelligent thing for them to do. In this case, the correct course of action would be for you to alter your tactics and weapons to fit the situation. Laser guided atgms are probably not a great choice for a fast mover to use against targets hiding in dense forests. They wouldn't work very well in real life either. -edit edit And as a suggestion, you can put vikhrs on a Su-25T, but that doesn't mean it's a great idea. They destroy your aerodynamics and performance, and it takes 20-30 minutes of circling repeatedly to get them all off on a target area (since you have 16 of them and can only fly so slow). I literally NEVER use them on the Frogfoot. They suck horribly, imo. Virtually any other weapon is a better choice. What works well on an attack helicopter doesn't necessarily translate to a fixed wing fast mover... or is it just a coincidence this concept never went anywhere beyond a handful of testbed aircraft? Edited May 23, 2020 by zhukov032186 Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) By going to the appropriate directory and loading them. -edit Instant, not regular, nevermind. Don't know if you can modify instant action missions. Just create/use a similar mission, and do what you need to there. That said, tanks hiding in a forest is like... a normal, intelligent thing for them to do. In this case, the correct course of action would be for you to alter your tactics and weapons to fit the situation. Laser guided atgms are probably not a great choice for a fast mover to use against targets hiding in dense forests. They wouldn't work very well in real life either. -edit edit And as a suggestion, you can put vikhrs on a Su-25T, but that doesn't mean it's a great idea. They destroy your aerodynamics and performance, and it takes 20-30 minutes of circling repeatedly to get them all off on a target area (since you have 16 of them and can only fly so slow). I literally NEVER use them on the Frogfoot. They suck horribly, imo. Virtually any other weapon is a better choice. What works well on an attack helicopter doesn't necessarily translate to a fixed wing fast mover... or is it just a coincidence this concept never went anywhere beyond a handful of testbed aircraft? Sounds like you haven't played that mission. You don't get to choose your weapons in Instant Action. And there are like 20 of them you have to destroy or you fail the mission. Couple bombs are not going to work. Poorly designed missions I should say if the trees are tougher than armors. Found the location of the Instant Action missions by the way. Called QuickStart. Edited May 23, 2020 by Taz1004 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkiii Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 If my memory serves, trees did not used to have collision. Just a guess, but the SU25 has not had a lot of effort spent on it for a long time, so I'm guessing that perhaps the missions predate the newer trees with collision detection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 IIRC it’s possible to save an instant mission, meaning that you can do what you like with it. Including changing weapons and choice of aircraft System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 This was few months old and I did find workaround since then. But since you guys brought it back, yes, I can sort of work around the indestructible trees but this is STILL very annoying when it comes to AI wingman dealing with these trees. They will never fire if targets are slightly covered in trees. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhand Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 My guess is that the templates were made prior to the forests being replanted... YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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