SCUDs working now

awsome work on those scuds :thumbup:

now the SA-5 can't be that far away :lol:

some observations i got here:

the range in ME is 450 km, but:

1. if you set the target over 350~355km - it will not shoot, only rise the missile
   
2. if you set the target over ~295km, at this distance the missile explode in the air
   
3. fire at group is not working, only fire at point
   

so set "fire at point" and target range under 295km and they will go in space and fall near target - not so precise :)

some observations i got here:

 

 

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2. if you set the target over ~295km, at this distance the missile explode in the air
    
   

 

so set "fire at point" and target range under 295km and they will go in space and fall near target - not so precise :)

Both are realistic. Some of these missiles have a tendency to break apart mid-air. This was particularly true of iraqi-modified or iraqi-manufactured variants

On the second point, these are not precise weapons. Scud-B has a CEP of 900 meters, meaning it has a 50% chance of landing somewhey within a 900m radius circle centered on the target point. Not so precise indeed

Missile still WIP.

In the future, we will add realistic dispersion of about one kilometer at a range of 300 km.

Chizh- see above, actual dispersion is quite a bit greater than 1km@300 (unless you calculate dispersion the same way CEP is calculated)

Will Patriot be able to engage scuds now that they're functioning?

I don't get this:

fire at group is not working, only fire at point

Yes, as real life.

Maybe i wasn't clear, my apologies: in Mission Editor, select SCUD group, Advanced Waypoint Actions, Perform Task, Attack Group - choose an enemy group, start mission - nothing happens

Oh and:

Range of Scud from 50 to 300 km.

Ok, then correct the circle radius of unit in ME, from 450km to 300km.

Thanks.

A note on what I mentioned for CEP , I've found federation of American sciences lists scud B at 900m, and center for strategic & international studies lists it at 450m

Possible someone mixed diameter and radius? Or people working from wildly different sources of data

Yeah the Scud is not a precision weapon by any means. There was a "precision" guidance kit developed later on but no one used it to my knowledge because there were already better missiles available..

Chizh- see above, actual dispersion is quite a bit greater than 1km@300 (unless you calculate dispersion the same way CEP is calculated)

 

Will Patriot be able to engage scuds now that they're functioning?

Patriots were engaging the SCUD mod no issue.....I could lock on to the scuds with 120's as well when I was trying to intercept, not sure if I hit one or not tho lol :P

хаха, я люблю это, отличная работа, ребята!

I don't get this:

 

Maybe i wasn't clear, my apologies: in Mission Editor, select SCUD group, Advanced Waypoint Actions, Perform Task, Attack Group - choose an enemy group, start mission - nothing happens

Well, I think the problem is that you are asking it to aim at an enemy group.

My understanding is that SCUD and it's related weapons of that era were to be aimed at places on a map, a grid reference number. You could aim it at a building, a base... but aiming it at an enemy armor formation, not really within it's capability or mission. It never had the accuracy to take on targets that move occasionally. It BARELY had enough accuracy to do anything at all using conventional warheads, on a point target...

It's different today with all the GPS and guided artillery rocket/missiles. But SCUD's are actually an old technology. Remember, the first SCUD versions entered service in 1957 !!! :cry: I mean, in 1957 my parents hadn't even met yet! And I'm old!! WW2 era Warbirds were still in service in many countries in those days!

SCUD's were a source of deep concern during Desert STorm, not because of the conventional warheads, but because we thought they might have chem or bio weapons, or possibly even some sort of crude radioactive device like perhaps a dirty bomb. Part of that fear centered around wanting to limit the war to the existing participants, while Saddam wanted to piss off Israel to draw them into the conflict.

It's probable that programming a target into the SCUD A and B was probably somewhat time consuming, unlike today's GPS guided munitions, and that too would keep most SCUD's to fixed targets that never ever move.