Mission 6 Help

no spoilers here: just wanted to see if anyone has successfully complete mission 6, or even taken off for that matter? have tried 3 times now but having some issues...

bug issues?

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bug issues?

 

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not sure if bug or intended, hope you can help me out.

 

 

1st takeoff attempt: taxiiing around debris, found a clear path to runway crossroads, then BAM my front wheel acts as if it's hit something and snaps off. hmm

 

2nd takeoff attempt: go a different way this time, lineup on runway 20 and begin my roll. take off successfully, then about 20' off the runway, and 175mph: BAM, hit with an R-60 from an SU-25T. dead

 

3rd attempt: i get about 500 feet up this time before the R-60 gets me

 

4th attempt: im eager to avoid that R-60 this time, i stay super super low at the treetops and bug out down the coast as quickly as i can, however i can tell i'm getting chased by some su-25's. the three bogeys spawn in front of me and i get the command to take them out, i pull up and begin my attack, then BAM, there comes the R-60

 

not sure how i'm supposed to battle against A2A missiles in my F-86. is this intended and i just need more practice? or is something else supposed to be happening?

 

 

still, i'm loving this campaign. best time i've had in DCS so far.

the beginning of mission 6 scared the begeezus out of me :thumbup:

 

One possible thing you could try (and not sure if this will help) is try taxing to runway 20 a little slower.

i'll give that a try and report back

edit: tried again. and once again i hit something invisible which severely damaged my landing gear. i managed to take off and ran from the su-25's. but then realized you can't dogfight with damaged landing gear :p

i've attached a track, just fast forward until i start rolling then it happens

wheelpop.trk

finally completed the mission. boy was this one tough.

Glad you got past it! And thanks for sending me that track of yours. After watching it, I think I see what you did wrong (well, not really wrong ... but you didn't do it the easy way. haha)

Glad you got past it! And thanks for sending me that track of yours. After watching it, I think I see what you did wrong (well, not really wrong ... but you didn't do it the easy way. haha)

 

 

The guy on the radio states that that you should taxi to where the two runways intersect and use runway 20 to depart, and that the normal route you use is blocked by debris (that's kinda the way you went, was the normal route) Attached in the second spoiler is an overhead picture of the suggested taxi route.

 

 

 

ah, always taking the road less traveled ;)

that taxi map is great, it's what i kind of thought i was supposed to do but never did. my last successful run i just literally went through the grass to B-line it out of there. seemed to work :music_whistling:

I had a successfully takeoff but now I don't know what to do.

I chase a couple of su over mountains. (one down and one kills me)

Is it correct?

Here's some hints for ya!

Here's some hints for ya!

 

Understand :thumbup:

I know this is a bit of necroposting, however issue with R-60's is still there in a latest build. Using tactics you can get away from the airfield, but there's no way to survive 3x Su-25s chasing with R-60's after you.

When I few with MiG after campaign came out it was no issue. Now re-flying with F-86 and there we go...

same for me, two miles apart from the merge i see an r-60 coming off the rails and 4 seconds later i look like the A-10s on the ramp.

Thanks for the reports guys. I'll look into this. The SU-25's in the past weren't aggressive, just defensive. Wonder if something changed somehow.

Hey Apache...I've recently experienced a much more enthusiastic response than in previous DCS versions with respect to the default "CAS" tasking assigned in the mission editor when you drop a unit in.

I just experienced a similar issue with one of my missions, I'd recommend checking if that is present and if it is, removing it if possible and replacing it with specific tasking and ROE -> only designated.

"enthusiastic" Haha, thanks for the heads up feefifofum. I'll definitely look into that. Wouldn't "only designated" also steer them to shoot at the player though? Or do they do it with a little less hatred?

Only if they have a general search-then-engage-in-zone tasking or the default CAS tasking; if you direct them to attack specific targets and set the ROE as only designated, they should ignore the player aircraft and only evade fire.

Another alternative would be to set their ROE as "return fire" at which point they would attack the player once engaged.

I think that ROE is generally bugged now. In many tries flights with ROE set to Only Designated would attack whatever was in their way (for CAP) and some static containers 20 miles away from the target...

I think that ROE is generally bugged now. In many tries flights with ROE set to Only Designated would attack whatever was in their way (for CAP) and some static containers 20 miles away from the target...

I agree. I've been fine-tuning one of my sandbox mission to make a pair of Apaches attack particular three groups. Took about 2.5 hours of trial and error :(

I know this is a bit of necroposting, however issue with R-60's is still there in a latest build. Using tactics you can get away from the airfield, but there's no way to survive 3x Su-25s chasing with R-60's after you.

 

Just tried this mission today and found the same thing (latest open beta). After repeatedly getting shot down by an R-60 I had to switch on 'invulnerability' to get past it. Other than that, really enjoying the campaign so far.

You can still complete the mission even with the R-60s:

Ugh, none of this was ever intended. I'm sorry. They shouldn't be as aggressive as they are. I'm currently working on bringing the campaign up to v2.5 standards, and making sure this isn't an issue there. I should get a fix for this 1.5 version too, but gotta focus on 2.5 first.

Alright, so I test flew this mission a number of times today ... and everything is working as I wanted it too. Granted, the F-86 version of this mission IS a bit more difficult than the MiG-15 version. Current DCS version during my testing was v1.5.7.11476

I flew this mission 8 times with the F-86. Here's my results (and yes, I died a lot, but it was for testing purposes ... :) or at least that's what I'm telling myself )

1: Success - Flew like I did when I first built this mission. Offset myself from the shoreline (flew over sea) and attacked SU-25's from their flank.

2: Died - Flew straight at the formation, Saw R-60 come straight at me when range was close.

3: Died - Flew straight at the formation, no R-60 this time. Got shot down by an R-60 later as I failed to check my six often enough

4: Died - Tried to take off from ramp (to quicken the testing) got shot down by R-73

5: Died - See # 4

6: Died - See # 3

7: Died - See # 4 again

8: Success - Flew straight at the formation, no R-60 shot at me. Merged and fought while continually checking my six. Splashed all 3.

With the MiG-15 I flew 3 times.

1: Success - Flew straight at formation, no Aim-9. Shot 2 A-10's down, 1 hit the hills.

2: Died - Got shot down by ... something ... taking off from the Ramp of the airport (just like with the F-86 version)

3: Died - After shooting down 1 A-10, I let the other 2 get on my six. Wanted to see if they'd fire an Aim-9 at me. They didn't. Instead, I got BRRRRRRRRRRRRT to death. (ok it was more like just a quick BRT, haha .... poor little MiG-15)

- Apache600

I just cannot complete this mission. Got to agree with previous posts. 3x SU 25s firing 60s is OP on the 86.

Loving the campaign other than that though. Excellent work Apache!

Sorry to hear it's giving you a hard time. This issue has been addressed for the 2.5 version (when that releases). Just so you don't get hung up on the mission, you can always use that radio command in the first 30 seconds of mission start to skip it.