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Old 08-09-2017, 04:37 PM   #1031
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a short question concerning the standalone grip. Is there anyway to connect hte grip directly to the pc without the Virpil base or Warthog base? I've got the t.16000m and therefor have a lack of buttons and switches. The stick-base combo is more what i can spend atm and getting the grip only would be a good start provided you can hook it up directly to the pc somehow. Any idea on that?
Is not impossible - but require good amount of DIY.

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First: T.16000M controller manage 16 buttons + POV HAT

T50 (and Warthog) grip has 19 buttons + POV HAT - T50 has a additional axis (brake lever).

So just plug T50 in T.16000M base will not work, first because T50/Warhog grip send buttons inputs for controller through Shift Register serial protocol.

T.16000M base seems manage buttons through diode matrix (since cost $0,0x less), a different protocol.

Second even if you are able to overcome this some buttons (3) in T50/Warthog grip will not work due lack or T.16000M controller capability.

But you can just use a Arduino PRO Micro or Teensy with MMjoy2 firmware that is compatible with Shift Register serial protocol - or write a Arduino code if are use do this - what is easy and cost little (Arduino PRO Micro clones is ~6 in eBay) for manage grip buttons.

This Milopapa topic exemplify well - just with other parts - how do this:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=152723

In this way you make a dual joystick with this "Franken'stick":
T.16000M for manage axis (optionally can use their buttons input for "button box") and T50 grip became other joystick. Two USB cables is connect to computer.

For modern flight games (AKA "simulators") this solution don't cause problems because they can use multiples controllers, but for "AAA" games with "flight things" e.g. BF's maybe cause issue, generally they use one joystick only. No clue about "Space games" (my interest in then is like for Star Wars movies = 0).

Make the T.16000M base compatible with Warthog/T50 nut is no difficult, the need parts is available in [url=https://www.shapeways.com/product/7X4SAB5N7/cougar-4?optionId=61311375[/url], probable require some trim in lower part as is done for other models, what you need is the threaded part. T.16000M "twist rudder" certainly need be erased.

BTW - Not sure but probable you can use the T50 brake lever axis though MMjoy2, what is not possible via Warthog base.

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with MMJoy2 you mean wiring it to an arduino board and stuff?
You need flash (write) MMjoy2 firmware in Ardunio PRO Micro/Teensy... board, what is simple like record a file in DVD. Don't require additional hardware, as is done through USB cable.


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Old 08-09-2017, 05:30 PM   #1032
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Hi Cyph3r


I understand the preorders of the Mongoose Base are about to be delivered, but how long af a wait would you roughly estimate for new orders?


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Old 08-09-2017, 06:23 PM   #1033
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I understand the preorders of the Mongoose Base are about to be delivered, but how long af a wait would you roughly estimate for new orders?


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We're looking to be around the end of next week for new orders
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Old 08-09-2017, 09:15 PM   #1034
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Hi Cyph3r,

Bringing discussion back to the base - set includes 3 sets of different cams and springs. Can you, if possible, post instructions on how to swap them.

Thanks!
To give a quick text instruction list for changing the cams/springs:
  1. Disconnect from PC and remove grip.
  2. Remove 4 x bolts on the rear side of the VPC MongoosT-50 Base.
  3. Remove 4 x bolts on the underside of the VPC MongoosT-50 Base and remove the lower plate.
  4. Disconnect the 3 x cables plugged into the VPC-Controller board.
  5. Remove 4 x outermost bolts on the topside of the VPC MongoosT-50 Base.
  6. Carefully lift the gimbal from the outer housing.
    You will now have the VPC MongoosT-50 gimbal out of the external housing
  7. Remove 4 x remaining bolts from the VPC MongoosT-50 Base.
  8. Fully loosen the "pitch" and "roll" axis tensioners. This will free the axis lever arms. You can now replace the springs.
  9. Each cam is held in place with screws, remove these to detach the cams.

Reassembly is just a reverse of these steps. Once you've settled on your preferred cams and compression springs, you can fine tune the tension for each axis via the adjustment holes in the top plate once everything is reassembled.
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Any news on US-bound shipments? Just curious how you're ordering things for dispatch. Not trying to be annoying, just VERY EXCITED to get my hands on the T50!
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Any news on US-bound shipments? Just curious how you're ordering things for dispatch. Not trying to be annoying, just VERY EXCITED to get my hands on the T50!
A few batches have already included US orders. Don't worry, not long to wait now!
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My setup is showing still at Export Office in Minsk. It has been released by customs though.

Hopefully not too much longer now.
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I hope in the not too distant future, the shipping costs to the USA can be substantially reduced. Otherwise I would have no choice but to go lwith a competitor's products (VKB).

I'm very interested in the desk mounts (competitors are not as adjustable and very expensive) but my desk thickness measures 1.5 cm not 2 - 6cm. Would it still work on my desk?

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I hope in the not too distant future, the shipping costs to the USA can be substantially reduced. Otherwise I would have no choice but to go lwith a competitor's products (VKB).

I'm very interested in the desk mounts (competitors are not as adjustable and very expensive) but my desk thickness measures 1.5 cm not 2 - 6cm. Would it still work on my desk?

From Virpil page:

"The VPC Desk Mount will attach securely to most computer desks* with a thickness of 15-50mm."
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