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Old 09-16-2020, 02:11 PM   #11
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and the winner is still HP-REVERB G2


No way I am gonna buy a vr headset which requires mandatory facebook account with non-stop popup adds while playing!!


Can you immagine playing DCS and having those annoying adds every few minutes?? :|


check out the MRTV youtube channel, Sebastian explained this very well.
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:21 PM   #12
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and the winner is still HP-REVERB G2


No way I am gonna buy a vr headset which requires mandatory facebook account with non-stop popup adds while playing!!


Can you immagine playing DCS and having those annoying adds every few minutes?? :|


check out the MRTV youtube channel, Sebastian explained this very well.
Agreed . My interest lasted until i heard just how much personal info is required , that FB can kill your headset if you enter any dummy info and the aforementioned ads . Back to the G2 plan !

FB may as well use "black mirror" lenses going forward .
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Old 09-16-2020, 06:58 PM   #13
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Can you immagine playing DCS and having those annoying adds every few minutes?? :|
I highly, highly doubt that. They would do that on free Oculus games like they do on free smart phone games but will never do that on paid games let alone 3rd party PC games. Their business model of collecting data fails if people are annoyed enough to NOT use it.

I actually support Facebook for pushing VR to the mass. I originally backed Oculus Kickstarter because Palmer Luckey said he can bring VR to the mass at less than $300. He couldn't deliver and original Oculus was $600. They actually refunded money to original backers. Now Facebook is making that reality.

You need mandatory Steam account for SteamVR. Steam collect your browsing history and suggest games based on it. How is that different than Facebook if you don't use it for socializing and only for games?

And people are less worried about Google, Siri, and Alexa always listening to everything... Those assistants has to always listen in order to recognize "Okay Google" when it's spoken.

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Old 09-16-2020, 09:53 PM   #14
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I watched that keynote in Venues, but for those who haven't, here's a livesteam recording from Mike:



And a short review since he's been using the thing already for some weeks:

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Old 09-16-2020, 11:26 PM   #15
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As I have already committed to the Reverb G2, I hope it works as well as I expect. The refusal of Facebook/Oculus to support PC VR as best as possible guarantees I won't buy another one of their headsets despite having overall good experiences with both the CV1 and Rift S.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:47 PM   #17
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Yep very glad I have the Reverb G2 on Pre-Order.

With Facebook basically the Quest 2 is not the product, we are the product with all the data they are collecting and selling on us.

Love my Rift S, but there will be no more Rifts it would seem. This is where I will finally part ways with Oculus.
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Old 09-17-2020, 02:34 AM   #18
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For those of us who are already on Facebook and or are more relaxed about it. This thing represents good value price wise here in Australia, and competition is good. I'm just wondering how good it will be with DCS? Will there be a perceptible difference vs the G2 or other more expensive headsets? I gues we won't know until somebody gets one.
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Old 09-17-2020, 04:57 AM   #19
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Agreed . My interest lasted until i heard just how much personal info is required , that FB can kill your headset if you enter any dummy info and the aforementioned ads . Back to the G2 plan !

FB may as well use "black mirror" lenses going forward .
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

This is the first I realised that a facebook account was required and they reserve the right to kill the device if you don't give real data! (Not that I looked into it much yet - but you've just saved me a whole lot of time comparing specs and a whole lot of other stuff right there). No need to care what it does now. Reverb FTW!

About the only benefit I see getting out of this is increased competition driving better VR in the future.
Domestic Government - we want you to install this contract tracking app for COVID.

The people: We're concerned about privacy! Tell us more about what is and isn't done with data.

International Company : We want all your personal data. Our T&C are...

The People: Shut up and take my cash! I Agree to all your T&C that I've never read and don't care what you do with my personal info - Oh, and all my personal details are....

Yet here I am wondering - if the quest is so much cheaper, subsidised by the information facebook sells - who is buying that information and why is it worth so much $'s to them?!?




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Old 09-17-2020, 05:08 AM   #20
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For those of us who are already on Facebook and or are more relaxed about it. This thing represents good value price wise here in Australia, and competition is good. I'm just wondering how good it will be with DCS? Will there be a perceptible difference vs the G2 or other more expensive headsets? I gues we won't know until somebody gets one.
Fiber USB-C Link cable they offer is more than capable for 4K so that is not the concern for me. But it will initially have bad reviews due to refresh rate. And I wont be buying it until 90hz is available and reviewed.
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