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Too soon. Let's see how the 21 comes out first.

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I'd like to see the MiG-23MLD Flogger K, MiG-23M Flogger B and MiG-23BN Flogger H.

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I'd buy it for the cool go really really fast factor but otherwise meh.

 

Me too, though I'd buy anything rhat would actually come up for sale at this point. Push a Kittyhawk Flyer out there and I'll bite.

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It would be nice to see these old Russian birds get the high fidelity treatment.

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Perhaps instead of a another MiG they should make the worlds leading distributor of MiG parts. Otherwise known as the F-4 Phantom II.

 

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well, we are getting the world's leading distributor of F-4 Phantom II parts - Mig-21 :music_whistling:

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Mig-21 - 37

F-4 - 66

 

... Maybe the MiG-21 shot down more phantoms than other MiGs, I don't know ... but the Phantom shot down nearly twice as many MiG-21's as MiG-21's shot down phantoms, so really, greatest distributor of parts goes to the Phantom, not to the MiG.

 

That assumes of course that such figures are correct - and these are just for Vietnam :)

 

well, we are getting the world's leading distributor of F-4 Phantom II parts - Mig-21 :music_whistling:

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considering better situation awareness by superior and overall numerical superior and qualitative and training wise USAF in vietnam i think we can easily confirm that F-4 is by far no destructor of Migs.. if anything Mig-21 IS destructor of f-4 considering the price factor and the fact migs fought in numerically inferior battles.. i would say 37 versus 66 is a good indicator just how good mig21 is..

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considering better situation awareness by superior and overall numerical superior and qualitative and training wise USAF in vietnam i think we can easily confirm that F-4 is by far no destructor of Migs.. if anything Mig-21 IS destructor of f-4 considering the price factor and the fact migs fought in numerically inferior battles.. i would say 37 versus 66 is a good indicator just how good mig21 is..

 

From what I've read, the Vietnam conflict would not be a good indicator of the MiG's performance as most of the MiG-21 victories seem to have been attacks from behind against unsuspecting enemies - they would be guided by GCI to positions behind large USAF bombing formations which they would approach from behind, fire the missiles and extend away.

 

IIRC, whenever the MiG-21 and Phantom pilots got engaged into a turning battle, the MiGs almost always lost (especially against better trained Navy pilots) due to the factors like poorly trained pilots, bad cockpit visibility and limited speed and poor acceleration at lower altitudes. There's some analysis here: http://area51specialprojects.com/migs_area51.html

 

At least this is the impression I got from reading the 'Clashes: Air Combat over North Vietnam' book (which makes for a very interesting read, IMHO), though this was from the Operation Rolling Thunder half mostly as I haven't finished the Linebacker campaigns part, but I suspect that the USAF inflexible approach didn't change much and thus neither did the Vietnamese have had to modify their tactics.


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