[NO BUG]190-A8 radio not work?

I am unable to get the frequencies set in the mission editor to be used by the Anton. Whist not a major issue, it does mean that I cant set the aircraft radios to match an airfield for ATC purposes.

For example, despite setting Ch I to 38.85 in the mission editor (for Carpiquet), when I spawn in, the radio remains on the default channel freq.

Is anyone having this issue?

I think I had similar issue yesterday, I flipped radio switches back and forth and it started working.

I think I had similar issue yesterday, I flipped radio switches back and forth and it started working.

I think I've found the problem.

Channel 1 in the German aircraft appears to be taking the same frequency as Ch2, no matter what the mission editor says.

Video coming soon to show this

OK, that explains some of the wireless weirdness I've recently encountered. But the channels are still on distinct frequencies in the ME, so I'm not sure if there's anything we can do, apart from waiting for a fix. Ideas for a workaround ladies and gents? Well one could always use channels 3 & 4 of course...

I think I've found the problem.

 

Channel 1 in the German aircraft appears to be taking the same frequency as Ch2, no matter what the mission editor says.

Video coming soon to show this

I have noticed hat as well yesterday in your server, it was impossible to contact tower due to this. Chanel I and II were the same frequency.

So, now FuG 16 radio works as it did IRL in A-8.

Will the radio work the same way in the rest of LW planes.

And please correct it in A-8 manual, p.76, where is thenl old description, which is now confusing.

So, now FuG 16 radio works as it did IRL in A-8.

Doy ou know if the homing function for the AFN-2 is implemented and if so how to use it?

It used to work with one of the ATC frequencies, you set it in the mission editor and then works. But that feature broke some time ago for the K4 and D9 and seems to be forgotten since. Maybe it works with the A8?

Doy ou know if the homing function for the AFN-2 is implemented and if so how to use it?

Unfortunately it works somehow, even is shouldn't.

In ME just set ILS freq. in to "AFN2 Base Frequency" and you will see your azimuth information, left or right, from a localizer beam (works for all three planes). You mast be close from base and not too far from beam. It is shown by vertical needle with some delay and instability. Horizontal needle should show (IRL) signal strength - distance from beacon. It shows something, but i never realized what exacly here...?

Selected radio chanel has no impact on it.

I tried it only on Caucasus map, not on NTTR or PG and not all ILS systems at all bases.

K-4 and A-8 moreover show flying above marker, white light in the middle AFN-2. No setting is required, all markers have the same frequency. It is not shown in D-9.

It is bug all of it, except D-9 inability to read markers.

To cooperate with German WWII ILS system, fighter needed aditional device cooperating with FuG-16.

Simple AFN-2 what we have only showed azimuth and distance from beacon (something like NDB +DME) IRL.

This German radionavigation worked with different frequency range from modern systems, all of them. And modern ILS system works with DDM, German Lorenz was in principle A-N system.

Markers frequency is again different, modern 75MHz, WWII German 38MHz...

There in DCS W, even DCS WWII, is no one WWII radio device, Allied or Axis. So any WWII radio navigation aid in WWII planes shouldn't work.

first picture, am right from axis

second, am left from axis

Wow, thank you for taking the time to answer in such detail.

From your pictures I can see that the system is working basically correctly. If you are to the right of the beacon the vertical marker points to the right and vice versa. Also range seems to be correctly displayed.

Markers frequency is again different, modern 75MHz, WWII German 38MHz...

I think the WW2 frequency was 33 MHz for civil use and 30-31.5 MHz for military.

I was going to use the AFN-2 for a mission with Y-Führung, where the JLO directs the aircraft to intercept an enemy aircraft. When flying the correct bearing the light in the AFN-2 would shine brightly and dim when going off course. Do you know if there is a way to model that with LUA code?

Am sorry, i have no knowledge of LUA.

From your pictures I can see that the system is working basically correctly...

If you take FuG-16 with AFN-2 as a modern localizer receiver, which is not.

I think the WW2 frequency was 33 MHz for civil use and 30-31.5 MHz for military.

Here is description from Fu IB 2 manual, a device needed to coop with Lorenz landing system.

Here is Lorenz landing system, generaly similar to modern (and Allied WWII) but in principle different.

Ummm, OK, so back to the comms question for a second, how are we supposed to use it then with this realistic implementation? Ask ATC on first channel and immediately switch to second to hear reply?

Ummm, OK, so back to the comms question for a second, how are we supposed to use it then with this realistic implementation? Ask ATC on first channel and immediately switch to second to hear reply?

No, you communicate with ATC on channel 4.

Channel 1 is for sending information to your radar officer who guides you to a target (JLO)

Channel 2 is for flight coms and listening to the JLO

Channel 3 is for super-regional coms (Reichsjägerwelle)

Channel 4 is for ATC and around-the-airfield coms (Nahflugsicherung)

Note:

There is conflicting info about the use of Channel 3 and 4 as some sources suggest they were the other way round (3 for ATC, 4 for Reichsjäger)

Here is Lorenz landing system, generaly similar to modern (and Allied WWII) but in principle different.

So from what I understand what is not implemented about the system at the moment is:

- missing Voreinflugzeichen

- not enough range

- wrong frequency used

- missing acoustic signal

Correct? I will make a mission tonight and test this a bit for myself.

Here is description from Fu IB 2 manual, a device needed to coop with Lorenz landing system.

Do you think you could post a link to a PDF document of that manual? :)

Hi all

from the team, this is working as intended

Hi,

we tested it today and it does not work as intended.

It should work as you posted:

when channel "I" is selected - the transmitter is tuned to channel "I" frequency and the receiver is tuned to channel "II" frequency.

Unfortunetely in DCS Fw 190A when Chanel "I" is selected, both the transmitter and the receiver are tuned to chanel "II" frequency and your radio transmits on the same frequency as it receives. That is not correct.

It jus copy radio frequency from channel "II" to channel "I". And it is not correct.

Tested between planes and between plane and ATC with another planes were listening, the result was the same.

Simply FuG-16 has the receiver with "memory" for only 3 pre-tuned frequencies, but the transmitter had 4.

So from what I understand what is not implemented about the system at the moment is:

- missing Voreinflugzeichen

- not enough range

- wrong frequency used

- missing acoustic signal

 

Correct? I will make a mission tonight and test this a bit for myself.

Unfortunately no, it is not so easy.

Hi,

we tested it today and it does not work as intended.

 

It should work as you posted:

when channel "I" is selected - the transmitter is tuned to channel "I" frequency and the receiver is tuned to channel "II" frequency.

 

Unfortunetely in DCS Fw 190A when Chanel "I" is selected, both the transmitter and the receiver are tuned to chanel "II" frequency and your radio transmits on the same frequency as it receives. That is not correct.

 

It jus copy radio frequency from channel "II" to channel "I". And it is not correct.

 

Tested between planes and between plane and ATC with another planes were listening, the result was the same.

 

 

Simply FuG-16 has the receiver with "memory" for only 3 pre-tuned frequencies, but the transmitter had 4.

 

 

 

Unfortunately no, it is not so easy.

Channel 1 was set to transmit your position to a radar officer, while receive was tuned to channel 2 frequency. This is unfortunately not implemented at all, since there is no radar station to receive your position in the first place. :)

I tested AFN-2 in Caucasus and range and Voreinflugzeichen seemed to be ok. Acoustic is implemented and maybe correct for Georgian beacons but German beacons accoustics told you if you were left or right of slope or approaching correctly.