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Old 09-25-2018, 04:31 PM   #1
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Question What to do in Mission 5?

Well, Gerd-Wiem told me how he did it, but if I'm right, it did not give 100 points.


Personally, I don't understand what to do, maybe also because the translation doesn't seem completely clear.


After cleaning up camp 1, do I have to climb and chase the Hind (never saw them though) or do I have to attack camp 2? According to Gerd-Wiem, this at least stops the "timer".


The woman tells me to climb, so I do. Soon after, I'm told that it's dangerous and that I shall not climb. So what now? Do I have to climb and search/attack the Hind or not?


Either way, I get the message that I have to "attack" and soon after, I get the message "Mission Failed" without having a clue what I should have really done.


So maybe Forexkor can explain what to do in which order?


At least I learnt how to do the manual startup of the Ka-50 due to the bugged autostart (right engine never starts).
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Old 09-26-2018, 07:43 PM   #2
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I flew mission 5 again two times cause i missed a tank at first try and cause i am curious too, but in missions editor. A Ka-50 handstart is neccesary. Than slowly to the camp, all rockets out at once and when there is rest targets like Trucks i got it in nearly Hover flight with gun out. Best is to make after rocket attack a rockets pod jettison, cause much more less weight. After i run at 2. point, destroy with gun the truck, Mi-8 and BMP. Than to 3. point, cause wild help calls through Radio Comes out, like people will die here an so on. I saw only some
fire like a small attack or something else from far away in air, but there was nothing at 3. Point. I understand the Story in Mission 5 not. Than turned around and sniped with Shkvals the heavy tanks away, again in Hoover. But take a Little distance, The Shkvals will miss when you to close at tanks like 0.6 km or less.
After RTB i got 100 percent. Without RTB and and only one tank instead all 3 i destroyed, i got 80 percent. There is no more a camapign failed at me, all played through the editor. I can only imagine that the Designer brings you with a Story to waypoint 3, cause you can turn around and has than a better look at the tanks and much more better attack angle, special with skhvals at little more distance, but it is only a guess. Cause waypoint 3 is only the Peak of a mountain.
But on, this is told as a Trainings Mission, not a Combat flight. Try to switch all Targets off and make a RTB, than it should be done. Ok, but after the last patch now all, maybe the Mission failed failure is away.
And maybe another has a better or other idea about this Mission, that was only my way.

(Sry for edit, but my Network cuts me off here, other problems.)

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Old 09-27-2018, 10:28 AM   #3
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Hello, in this mission the first task is to eliminate the enemy's training camp.
The second task is to eliminate hinds which are chasing mi-8 group.
According to the plot, there is a "stormy" radio traffic, and no straight order to eliminate helis. But the dispatcher directs to the point in ABRIS and the radio traffic with MI-8 leads to nothing but saving MI-8 group from Georgian helis.
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Old 09-27-2018, 03:31 PM   #4
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Forexkor,

thanks for the info. But when i have no straight order to eleminate hinds, all was right i done.

Ok, than i was to slowly. I cannot fly with a full loadout Ka-50 in around 3000 m and beside my orders eleminate other helis like heavy Combat Hinds. A Ka-50 against Hinds, but ok. The fire was than maybe a Mi-8 destroyed from something far away at Point 3, maybe the hinds. That is strange, cause we has no information about all bevore the Mission starts. I think that is only the Gameplay. But the less of Information let us only guess about such all.


Mission 12 is the same.
I start somewhere on the map and should look for convoys in a Mi-8. Then Apaches discover me. But after all I have to find the trigger itself where the Deep altitude flying starts. Dodge the Radar is the Mission, but you should find it self absent the route, but there is no route not on F-10 map or Kneeboard. I already flew across the whole map with time compression, that the gameplay or trigger like Apache finds me and game will go on.

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Old 09-27-2018, 04:49 PM   #5
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Mission 5
Assignment red.

Task for 11
Accomplish exercis 1: elemination of imaginary enemy field camp.

Exercise 2: elemination of automobile, soft skinned, armored vehicles and aviaton located at imaginary enemy parking.

Exercise 3: maximum ascending.

Exercise 4: working on the imaginary Situation of engine failure.



I see no your second Task in the briefing with the hinds and after a next try i see no hinds at whole, curiously. Seems that is enough to destroy all Targets, fly to 3. waypoint to saving imaginary the Mi-8, but it leads to Nothing at WP. 3

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Old 09-28-2018, 06:17 PM   #6
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mission 5 chronology:
at first youк task is to finish all the briefing exercises, you start wtih the first one, then the dispatcher informs you that there is a MI-8 group in the quadrant whis are being chased by a tresspassing group of MI-24. You offer the dispatcher a combat flight, to defend mi-8 with Shkval rockets and the main gun. Dispatcher does not give you an exact orde, he sends you to the navigational point VS-4, near which mi-8 are passing. You should move along the creek gaining altitude.
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11th, in ABRIS you have a pinpoint VS-4; At this moment, our helicopters are passing it. Georgian MI24 are following them, with border trespassing.
Sergey, work extremely carefully. Enemy helicopters are to be eliminated. In emergent case, you know what to put into the report. end quote/
Then you eliminate 2 Mi-24 and escort the MI-8 group until the safe area.

In briefing mission 5 there are described aims but there is no word about the emergency situation with the civil helis It's the plot, a surprise for the players.
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Old 09-28-2018, 06:18 PM   #7
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Mission 12 chronology:
You chase MI-8, but only visually according to the plot.
Apachi joins MI-8 to escort. If you get too close, at first you get a warning from the second pilot that the object is too close. Then, if you don't slow down, apachi will move to you with the second warning. If you continue and don't get at the safe distance from the general's mi-8, you'll be arrested.
In such difficult circumstances you are chasing the group of helis until they land. Then you fly just at them and discover the HQ, after that the second pilot sets the course to Batumi. There you will need to get maximally low and perform a dangerous flight along the seaside by the railroad. According to the plot to be not shot by NATO. You should orient on the second pilot's repots and the smoke from the city.

i'm sorry for the confusion in the briefing 5 mission. When i was creating the mission, i had no idea it may create any difficulties and the testers have completed it without such problems. i will check it more careful next time.
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Old 09-28-2018, 06:54 PM   #8
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Thanks very much Forexkor,
And excuse me, of course there are hinds. There i was wrong. Maybe i missed a trigger or was to fast back at RTB. Now it is much more clear to me and it is possible to shot the hinds down and end Mission complete, thought i done it. But thanks for your reply.

Mision 12, i heard it at Radio voice and had an arrest, right. Second attempt i flow all right thought so, means at the coast near Batumi the small Airport cross there , after the low flight through the smoke signs. But after the low flight the voice told me, fly left the river an the border is about 10 km away. Than voice told, we near the turkisk border and it was slowly dark. Where i have to land after the low flight over railroads and bridges. I flow on and on outside the map or Keeboard. Maybe i missed a trigger again. Is the RTB Batumi ?

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Old 10-01-2018, 04:34 PM   #9
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Thanks very much Forexkor,
And excuse me, of course there are hinds. There i was wrong. Maybe i missed a trigger or was to fast back at RTB. Now it is much more clear to me and it is possible to shot the hinds down and end Mission complete, thought i done it. But thanks for your reply.

Mision 12, i heard it at Radio voice and had an arrest, right. Second attempt i flow all right thought so, means at the coast near Batumi the small Airport cross there , after the low flight through the smoke signs. But after the low flight the voice told me, fly left the river an the border is about 10 km away. Than voice told, we near the turkisk border and it was slowly dark. Where i have to land after the low flight over railroads and bridges. I flow on and on outside the map or Keeboard. Maybe i missed a trigger again. Is the RTB Batumi ?
n mission 12, after passing on the min altitude, you continue to move upriver, then turn to Turkish border and just continue moving through the creek until the passing of Turkish border. Then you'll see Mission Complete and the gameplay will turn off in several seconds.
There is no RTB in this mission as it has prolongation which will be available in next series of the campaign.

i hope you liked playing this campaign.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:11 PM   #10
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All Right, thanks i will do it. Yes the Campaign is nice, but becomes now much more heavy, but thats of course nice.
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