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Old 07-08-2019, 07:32 AM   #11
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Going the AMD route is still likely to be the better option with having in mind DCS World is being moved to Vulkan. Just for raising competition and giving a **** you to Intel aswell.

Edit: Nice censoring.
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Old 07-08-2019, 08:23 AM   #12
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AMD spent millions on marketing last 6 months. Everyone was so hyped, but in the end 8700k OCed to 5ghz is still the way to go. What a dissapointment
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Old 07-08-2019, 08:29 AM   #13
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Better to wait for some comparison in DCS VR. Benchmarks and other games can be misleading. And 3800 can possibly be a better performer after OC since less cores means less heat and base freq of 3800 is even higher than 3900, contrary to boost freq.

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Old 07-08-2019, 08:54 AM   #14
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I did think that the forums have been suggesting for the last year that these new CPUs would walk all over the Intel units, be much cheaper and all run at 5Ghz.
There's just nothing like some hype.

All the same, it's good that AMD are now able to compete, as it's hopefully going to result in prices for CPUs from both manufacturers to drop.
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:56 AM   #15
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Can't wait for some testpilots actually give us some real info. Holding back atm.
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Old 07-08-2019, 02:55 PM   #16
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yea what a joke,you would have to be pretty low iq to go for amd now if you play dcs ,lol also now is such a bad time to buy with ddr5 boards coming next year its practicly outdated allready

Here's a tip. Never love something that can't love you back. It's just a motherboard and gaming, there's no reason to call people stupid, is there?

And everything in technology gets outdated the minute you buy it. It's worse depreciation than driving off the lot with your new car.
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:42 PM   #17
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Going the AMD route is still likely to be the better option with having in mind DCS World is being moved to Vulkan. Just for raising competition and giving a **** you to Intel aswell.

Edit: Nice censoring.
Vulkan utilizes multi-core?
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Old 07-09-2019, 12:07 AM   #18
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As a supplier, I also greatly prefer AMD products. If Vulkan moves object processing to multi-core so AMD can comfortably work with the 476th's NTTR map, that would eliminate the last reason I have to consider an Intel build.


In the meantime though, with AMD lagging so much in benchmarks potentially relevant to DCS, Intel remains a more solid choice.
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Old 07-09-2019, 12:44 AM   #19
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Lagging behind in single digit percentages is hardly significant. In real terms, a 5% difference on 50fps is only 2.5fps; even 10%, which is about worst case, is only 5fps.

The difference I will gain by dropping a 3000 series into my 2 yr old motherboard to replace my first gen chip will be on the order of 30+%, or 15fps. The ability to upgrade down the road is worth the 5%, at least to me.
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Old 07-09-2019, 05:48 AM   #20
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Vulkan utilizes multi-core?
Yes. This should be the reason for ED to port DCSW to run on Vulkan. And then if you consider this and build a little future proof - the AMD CPU is now the better option. 3900X (3800X?) really does not lag a lot behind 9900K in single core honestly. As of Gamers Nexus benchmark the Ryzen also has a more stable frametime than its Intel counterpart which translates into a more smooth experience, especially for VR this could possibly make a feelable difference.

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