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Old 07-07-2019, 07:49 PM   #1
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Default Latest Benchmarks - Intel vs AMD

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14605...ing-the-bar/12


Interesting data here. AMD's latest processors are supposed to have higher single-threaded passmark scores. Benchmarks show Intel still has a large single-threaded lead in some cases.
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Old 07-07-2019, 08:50 PM   #2
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Seems to me that, for DCS at least, AMD has on the 3700X the equal of the Intel 8700K ... but the cost is very similar ... so, I'm glad for AMD ... but the early promises of surpassing Intel seems that were not achieved.
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Old 07-08-2019, 12:00 AM   #3
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Can't recall any promises to surpass Intel. They certainly suggested being on par but surpassing? They do in multicore for sure but not in singlecore.
Also, it still seems that RAM is extremely important for Amd :
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Old 07-08-2019, 01:29 AM   #4
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Can't recall any promises to surpass Intel...
Maybe not promises from AMD, but on this forum I got tired reading the constant advises of "dont buy now, wait for the new Ryzen killer chips" ... so, the end result is, at least to my eyes, underwhelming
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Old 07-08-2019, 01:35 AM   #5
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It really depends on what you're using it for. In single-threaded games at 1080p where you're not GPU bound, an OC'd 9700k/9900k has a small advantage (usually less than 10%) over the 3700x/3900x. At 4k, the processors perform very close most of the time because you become GPU bound. If you game at 4k (or possibly VR), you may not notice a difference between the two. The question at 4k is really longevity of the CPU and how long before you'll get to a GPU that needs a more powerful processor; will the Intel chip get you through one extra upgrade cycle? It's hard to say, as games may become more multi-threaded or more optimized for AMD over time - no one really knows the answer to that.


Then it becomes a question of what else you do with your PC. If you run highly multi-threaded apps and creation software, it looks like the 3700x/3900x outperform Intel most of the time and sometimes by a large margin.

I agree with the sentiment of most of the reviews I've read, on the whole the Ryzen 3000 series is a better all-around CPU, but in purely single-threaded applications the 9700k/9900k still have a small lead.
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Old 07-08-2019, 02:10 AM   #6
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Default AMD vs Intel is either or...YET what about the new GPUs???

Apologize if posting in the wrong section. Nonetheless, anxious to begin my DCS career so to speak...Does anyone have a GTX 1660Ti using for DCS..if so are u regulated to 1080p or is VR or 2K possible? Also, as the new releases from ED and it's affiliates are launched is 16GB of RAM sufficient or will 32GB be the new standard...if not already? The System Req has been static for some time..including with the latest releases such as the F-14...About to purchase/build just trying to get the best bang for my buck...mainly Mil-Sim; Flight-Sims exclusively...Thx in advance
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Old 07-08-2019, 02:23 AM   #7
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I'm glad for AMD ... but the early promises of surpassing Intel seems that were not achieved.
true that.
these 3000’s were hyped pretty heavily here in the forums. both by the ‘experts’ and by those who interpret spec sheets.
seems they were wrong.

it would be interesting to look back and see if was the same group who said the rift-s would suck, before it came out.
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Old 07-08-2019, 02:33 AM   #8
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Maybe not promises from AMD, but on this forum I got tired reading the constant advises of "dont buy now, wait for the new Ryzen killer chips" ... so, the end result is, at least to my eyes, underwhelming
I can't imagine why you feel underwhelmed since company made no indications that this chip will be a killer. If some people overhyped themselves then they can only blame themselves.

As for the chips themselves. 3900x with proper memory tuning will keep up with 9900k except for some very well binned chips giving you 5.2 Ghz. I want to see a reviews of 3800x vs 9900k with matured BIOS as this one caused problems to all reviewers I've seen so far and properly tuned memory.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:27 AM   #9
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Passmark scores for single threaded performance of Ryzen 3 CPUs were reportedly slightly higher than the competing Intel i9-9900k as of a few days ago. From recent benchmarks, this seems to be somewhat misleading. In particular, the anandtech benchmark shows much lower performance.

Speaking for myself, I don't feel underwhelmed. AMD still managed to turn out a generally quite useful processor.

For DCS World, however, it looks like Intel is the way to go. At least if your missions include very large numbers of objects.
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Old 07-08-2019, 05:51 AM   #10
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One thing the Gamers Nexus review points out is that Frametime, albeit being a little higher than with Intels flagship, are more consistent, e.g. less spikey on the Ryzen - that could be beneficial in VR.
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