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Old 07-11-2019, 09:47 PM   #1
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Default [DCS BUG] Sliding & Crashing In Multiplayer Multicrew

We've been experiencing this problem pretty much continuously. The jet is mostly stable although you get sliding with one person in the pit but as soon as someone jumps into the RIO seat you get this happening. Doesn't matter on a mission with scripts or just a bare bones mission. We've also tested on both of our servers and same problem exists. I have the ACMI file but do not have a track file because the size is way too large from a couple hours of flying. This happened right from the get go though.

Will be happy to provide you with whatever you need from either the server logs or anything you suggest. One other person that we fly with has other potentially helpful info too. I can place the ACMI file on our server and link since it's too large to attach here. Just let me know what you need.

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Old 07-12-2019, 12:56 AM   #2
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I have experienced this both as Pilot and RIO (I was the Tomcat pilot in the video). This was a sandbox mission with minimal scripting in order to keep everything as simple as possible, and both pilot and RIO were physically in the state of Virginia (i.e. minimal chance of geographical lag). We have consistently experienced these issues, along with massive desynchronization, with multiple pilot/RIO combinations on multiple servers and missions across multiple versions of DCS.

Here are links to my TacView and Track of the flight. Note that things look a bit different from my perspective.
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Hi guys, this issue is known and unfortunately not on our side. From my very limited understanding, it has to do with how the position of the aircraft is updated for each player and in between them, which results in this kind of rubber banding, or if you will discrepancy in the position of the aircraft for the pilot and the position of the aircraft for the RIO (the higher the ping, the bigger will be the rubber banding). Once airborne, this behavior should disappear completely.
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Hey IronMike, I appreciate the response from you. ED really needs to get on figuring out how to overcome this problem. You can't prevent people from getting into the Tomcat in MP if they want to and then when they do, well you see the results. But just so you know, this problem isn't just a problem on the carrier deck. When you have people in the Tomcat and they are flying around and just doing things like firing off Phoenix's, you see warping in the other units. I've seen the Tacview files when this happens and I can dig them up if you want them. So there are problems associated with having two clients in the same bird that are causing desync issues all over the place and not just in one specific area. But if they are just flying around, yeah, it's not really an issue.
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:40 PM   #5
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Hey IronMike, I appreciate the response from you. ED really needs to get on figuring out how to overcome this problem. You can't prevent people from getting into the Tomcat in MP if they want to and then when they do, well you see the results. But just so you know, this problem isn't just a problem on the carrier deck. When you have people in the Tomcat and they are flying around and just doing things like firing off Phoenix's, you see warping in the other units. I've seen the Tacview files when this happens and I can dig them up if you want them. So there are problems associated with having two clients in the same bird that are causing desync issues all over the place and not just in one specific area. But if they are just flying around, yeah, it's not really an issue.

I hear you. Ironing out multicrew surely takes its time though and at some point I am sure ED will be able to improve its stability online.
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Old 07-19-2019, 03:40 PM   #6
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The f18 does not slide so how is this a DCS bug? The Tomcat is the only one that slides around like this
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Old 07-19-2019, 03:47 PM   #7
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not trying to be an armchair developer, I'm just frustrated by the back and forth on this one. I've seen this brought up to ED and they say its an HB issue, then you guys say its an ED issue. I don't care whos issue it is it just needs to be fixed so we can fly mp on a freaking carrier without killing each other
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:48 PM   #8
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If I am not mistaken it is an issue connected to Multicrew, which is not entirely in our hands, I am not saying that is not at all on our side, too. That you do not get this in the Hornet, is simply because you have no second player in your aircraft and the position does not need to be updated and matched between the two. But you can experience similar rubber banding in other multicrew aircraft.

Please do not get me wrong, we are not trying to point fingers, not at all. But it is definitely something that we cannot solve entirely on our own and since we are working with ED together on several issues, I hope we will be able to tackle this one soon, too.
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We see this behavior regardless of whether there is a guy in the RIO's seat or not, so is it because there is a vacancy (slot) there that could be filled?
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^^^


I can confirm this happens multi crew or not.
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