WildBillKelsoe Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 to what distance in meters? AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rel4y Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Convergence is at 400m. Starting at ~130m the vertical trajectories of both weapons are roughly the same. (+-10cm) Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916 Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Convergence is at 400m. Starting at ~130m the vertical trajectories of both weapons are roughly the same. (+-10cm) so what youre saying is that bullets will hit the center of the cross at 400 meters, thats roughly a quarter of the 100 mil reticle, for a fighter sized target. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_D Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 so what youre saying is that bullets will hit the center of the cross at 400 meters, thats roughly a quarter of the 100 mil reticle, for a fighter sized target. Hi, yes the convergence is at 400m, but the 400m is the second point where the 30mm and 13mm hit the gunsightline. The first time the 30mm hit the gunsightline is about 125 - 135m. The 13mm should hit the gunsightline the first time at about 25m. Horizontal convergence for 13mm is 600m. So when a B-17 is 400m away in your gunsight you know the aiming point and for a fighter also at 125m - 135m or even at 200m. regards Little_D 1./JG2_Little_D Staffelkapitän 1./Jagdgeschwader 2 "Richthofen" "Go for the leader, if you can. The path is the goal, the kill the result." "The one who has 12, leads. The one who has six, follows." YouTube Channel: 1./JG2 Filmkanal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rel4y Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) Horizontal convergence for MG131 was 400m as well. Not that it makes much difference. The MK108 shells cross the gunsightline first at ~80m. At 130m they are around 30cm above gunsightline, with a max at 250m of 64cm. http://imgur.com/a/FY8Dd Edited August 20, 2017 by rel4y Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916 Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 Horizontal convergence for MG131 was 400m as well. Not that it makes much difference. The MK108 shells cross the gunsightline first at ~80m. At 130m they are around 30cm above gunsightline, with a max at 250m of 64cm. http://imgur.com/a/FY8Dd Ah thank you. Nice chart and explanation. So in mils that translates to half the first tick above cross at almost full span of fighter sized target, and the first tick at close to half span the same target? Hi, yes the convergence is at 400m, but the 400m is the second point where the 30mm and 13mm hit the gunsightline. The first time the 30mm hit the gunsightline is about 125 - 135m. The 13mm should hit the gunsightline the first time at about 25m. Horizontal convergence for 13mm is 600m. So when a B-17 is 400m away in your gunsight you know the aiming point and for a fighter also at 125m - 135m or even at 200m. regards Little_D thanks D. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rel4y Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I wanted to post this yesterday as well, but somehow forgot as I had trouble with several uploaders.. This should give you a nice overview. Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916 Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Aha so all of them converge at 400 meters? Sorry cant speak German. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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