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Old 10-15-2018, 09:14 PM   #11
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But there is an indication when the external wing tanks are empty Dudikoff - but only on the 9.13 gauge(has an extra empty-lamp for the purpose). The problem is that this gauge doesn't exist in the sim although the (RL)MiG-29S has it and the MiG-29(9.12) should have it if modified for wing drop tanks(which is how its depicted in the sim).
Yeah, sorry, I reckoned that since there's no fuel level meter there, that the lamp indication is an estimate, but I guess the fuel pumps can tell when there's no more fuel being pumped in and shut down automatically and this can be used as a signal for the indication.

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Yes it would and yes the wing drop tanks impose bigger restrictions than the CL tank. The reason is quite simply that the fuel system of the original 9.12 was designed to only have the ability to carry the CL tank. The introduction of wing drop tanks with the 9.13 was just sort of a "hack".
Hmm, I stand corrected, they actually did implement them to drop sequentially in the game (like the weapons). First press, the wing tanks are dropped and then the center tank (second press).

It might have been like this before, didn't really test this ever as the drop tanks are probably a pretty limited commodity. Though, now with a more realistic flight model and no air brake function with the CL tank on, I'd expect a sudden surge in demand from the simulated factory that makes them.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:05 PM   #12
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Hmm, I stand corrected, they actually did implement them to drop sequentially in the game (like the weapons). First press, the wing tanks are dropped and then the center tank (second press).
So do I then - I also remembered it as a single press for all......still in the wrong order though .
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:51 AM   #13
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Aren't there two commands which jettison fuel tanks. The jettison full tanks one which drops all your tanks and the normal jettison, which as on the F-15, drops the wing and then the center fuel tanks if present. If no fuel tanks it starts dropping weapons
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:34 AM   #14
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can somebody post a pic of the guage indicating the central tank light??
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I meant in the game, I just presumed all three get dumped at the same time (once you press CTRL-W), but I'll have to try it out.
LCtrl + W - jettison weapons
LAlt + R - jettison fuel tanks
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:25 AM   #16
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LCtrl + W - jettison weapons LAlt + R - jettison fuel tanks
Yes, but Ctrl-W also works as it first dumps the fuel tanks.
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can somebody post a pic of the guage indicating the central tank light??
From your manual, page 29
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You can find the manual here if you have FC3
The letter for the drive you installed DCS in:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\Flaming Cliffs\Doc

Or if you have the mig-29 individually
The letter for the drive you installed DCS in:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\Mig-29\Doc
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From your manual, page 29
Attachment 196080
You can find the manual here if you have FC3
The letter for the drive you installed DCS in:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\Flaming Cliffs\Doc

Or if you have the mig-29 individually
The letter for the drive you installed DCS in:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\Mig-29\Doc
Thanks mate, really appreciated, I haven't read an FC3 manual since years..so when the light of central tank is ON that means it's emty right?
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Strange thing for me, there are not manual for mig-29 in my installation doc folder (I'm in french setting). I take it directly from ED Forum
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Thanks mate, really appreciated, I haven't read an FC3 manual since years..so when the light of central tank is ON that means it's emty right?
Yes, any light that come on it indicates that tank is empty

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Strange thing for me, there are not manual for mig-29 in my installation doc folder (I'm in french setting). I take it directly from ED Forum
The manual for FC3 version was release with today's update for the Openbeta 2.5.3.22877
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