Nospin44 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Has there been any updated info on the Thrustmaster f/18 stick. Does anyone know if it is expected to be released in 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 “By the end of this year” was TM’s pitch at the trade shows over the summer...so still hoping for that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk VR Cockpit (link): Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + Otto switches | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper | VPC T-50 Base + 15cm Black Sahaj Extension + TM Hornet or Warthog Grip | Super Warthog Wheel Stand Pro | Steelcase Leap V2 + JetSeat SE VR Rig: Pimax 5K+ | ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti | Intel i7-9700K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | Corsair H115i RGB Platinum | 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 | Dell U3415W Curved 3440x1440 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3WA Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Personally, I would go with VKB Gunfighter and Virpil Throttle, myself. If I had the money. :music_whistling: TM was never that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOYKILLA Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Personally, I would go with VKB Gunfighter and Virpil Throttle, myself. If I had the money. :music_whistling: TM was never that great.The TM Warthog was the best Joystick for years. Gesendet von meinem SM-G950F mit Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nospin44 Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 Yea Id love me a virpil and gunfighter. However that price range is steep to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 The TM Warthog was the best Joystick for years. The best of a poor bunch perhaps, but given the much better engineered gimbals in either the Virpil or VKP sticks, being the best for years says very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nospin44 Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 I mean those high end setups are nice and all but theres something about using the correct hotas for the aircraft that cant be replaced by adding more buttons. The f/18 stick will also be very close to the harrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I wonder if TM will sell the grip separately, thus allowing its use on not only a warthog base, but also the bases from VPC and VKB System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirusAM Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I wonder if TM will sell the grip separately, thus allowing its use on not only a warthog base, but also the bases from VPC and VKB they will....they didn’t announce a bundle with the warthog base R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 Meta Quest 3 VPForce Rhino FFB, Virpil F-14 (VFX) Grip, F-15EX Throttle, MFG Crosswinds v3, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernst Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 The best of a poor bunch perhaps, but given the much better engineered gimbals in either the Virpil or VKP sticks, being the best for years says very little. well said, can't agree more. I openend my TM Warthog stick recently in order to clean and grease the moving parts. I was shocked how cheesy and primitive the overall design of the mechanics is. One shouldn't say "mechanics" it's cheap "plastics" only. I'll soon buy the Virpil stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispatch Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 maybe , when the F-16 is introduced to DCS, There will be a TM Cougar II ~ That would be incredible, I know a lot of people are wishing. ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) I openend my TM Warthog stick recently in order to clean and grease the moving parts. I was shocked how cheesy and primitive the overall design of the mechanics is. One shouldn't say "mechanics" it's cheap "plastics" only. I'll soon buy the Virpil stick. It should be noted that the Virpil grip and base costs as much or more than the entire Warthog set, while the Warthog grip is metal. You can't really expect similar gimbal quality for less than half the price (since I'm sure the Warthog Throttle costs much more to make than the Stick). Edited September 28, 2018 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernst Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) It should be noted that the Virpil grip and base costs as much or more than the entire Warthog set, while the Warthog grip is metal. You can't really expect similar gimbal quality for less than half the price (since I'm sure the Warthog Throttle costs much more to make than the Stick). Yes, the TM Warthog grip is really solid made of metal. As it's compatible with the Virpil base I'll buy the base only - regardless of any TM version II for the Hornet. Edited September 28, 2018 by wernst update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Personally, I would go with VKB Gunfighter and Virpil Throttle, myself. If I had the money. :music_whistling: TM was never that great. Alternatively, once could can go with the VKB or VPC base, and then use the Warthog grip and/or the impending Hornet grip, in combination with the better base... This is probably more optimal for someone who only flies NATO jets and wants control options to resemble those of the jets he is flying, but also doesn’t want to deal with the mediocre Warthog base/gimbal design. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk VR Cockpit (link): Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + Otto switches | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper | VPC T-50 Base + 15cm Black Sahaj Extension + TM Hornet or Warthog Grip | Super Warthog Wheel Stand Pro | Steelcase Leap V2 + JetSeat SE VR Rig: Pimax 5K+ | ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti | Intel i7-9700K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | Corsair H115i RGB Platinum | 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 | Dell U3415W Curved 3440x1440 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 The TM Warthog was the best Joystick for years. Gesendet von meinem SM-G950F mit Tapatalk Still second to the MS SW FFB2, just like any VKB or Virpil device without FFB as well TM, VKB and Virpil really need to come up with FFB bases as soon as those utterly disgusting and innovation-killing Immersion "paytents" expire. They aren't getting anything out of them literally for ages anyway. They're just preventing others from creating cool stuff without having any benefit for themselves at all by of doing so. Just like an asshole kid that sits on your toys so you can't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOYKILLA Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 FFB is unrealistic, all you need is a motion Simulator and VR Gesendet von meinem SM-G950F mit Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I think they should have gone with F14 stick. F18 and A10 are so similar, but an F14, that gives TM an opportunity to sell a new throttle/stick bundle. But I guess the market for F18 is bigger. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I was able to use the stick at RIAT this year, and really enjoyed it. It felt very natural and certainly an upgrade from what I'm currently using. The team said they expected a Q4 release. However, when I made an enquiry direct to TM last month, the response was far more cagey, saying that their 'prototypes' are not available, nor is there any guarantee that they would ever become production models. Which would be a shame, I'd buy one right away if they do indeed go to market this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I think they should have gone with F14 stick. F18 and A10 are so similar, but an F14, that gives TM an opportunity to sell a new throttle/stick bundle. But I guess the market for F18 is bigger. VKB has the rights to that...Heatblur teased that last year. F-18 grip design is perfect because it's applicable 1:1 for use with the Hornet and all Eagles, and it a very close proxy for the Harrier (the two hats are flipped for the Harrier, immaterial difference). Further, I believe some of the AH-1's use the same grip...so, plenty of uses for it. Lastly, IMO I don't find that it's that close to the A-10 design. VR Cockpit (link): Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + Otto switches | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper | VPC T-50 Base + 15cm Black Sahaj Extension + TM Hornet or Warthog Grip | Super Warthog Wheel Stand Pro | Steelcase Leap V2 + JetSeat SE VR Rig: Pimax 5K+ | ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti | Intel i7-9700K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | Corsair H115i RGB Platinum | 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 | Dell U3415W Curved 3440x1440 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strikerdg Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 So obviously if I could have the fully hotas setup for the hornet i would rather they do that.. but the A-10 stick is close enough in function to the hornet. I'd way rather have the correct throttles. We need proper AB detent in order to fly the hornet properly and more of the hotas is plain different on the throttle in my opinion.. id like to see both but if i had to pick one, hornet throttles is more important than having a stick that looks correct.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 TM F/A-18C STICK So obviously if I could have the fully hotas setup for the hornet i would rather they do that.. but the A-10 stick is close enough in function to the hornet. I'd way rather have the correct throttles. We need proper AB detent in order to fly the hornet properly and more of the hotas is plain different on the throttle in my opinion.. id like to see both but if i had to pick one, hornet throttles is more important than having a stick that looks correct.. There’s a Hornet throttle available, with proper detents for gate (push through) and IDLE (finger lifts)...it’s not cheap, though. That with the TM Hornet grip on the base of your choice, and you’ve got it all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk VR Cockpit (link): Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + Otto switches | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper | VPC T-50 Base + 15cm Black Sahaj Extension + TM Hornet or Warthog Grip | Super Warthog Wheel Stand Pro | Steelcase Leap V2 + JetSeat SE VR Rig: Pimax 5K+ | ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti | Intel i7-9700K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | Corsair H115i RGB Platinum | 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 | Dell U3415W Curved 3440x1440 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixpack49DCS Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Hallo I have install the new TARGET SW and Firmware in the TARGET GUI , i can see a new Stick the name ist "HOTAS WARTHOG JOYSTICK F18" :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 So obviously if I could have the fully hotas setup for the hornet i would rather they do that.. but the A-10 stick is close enough in function to the hornet. I'd way rather have the correct throttles. We need proper AB detent in order to fly the hornet properly and more of the hotas is plain different on the throttle in my opinion.. id like to see both but if i had to pick one, hornet throttles is more important than having a stick that looks correct.. Easy fix on the detent for AB. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbrood Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I have the Shapeways part on the way, that plus some tweaking of the curves = sorted! i7-4770k | EVGA GTX 980 SC | 16GB DDR3 | TrackIR 5, TM Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals DCS: F-16C, F/A-18C, F-14A/B, AV-8B, FC3, A-10C, Black Shark II, UH-1H, F-86F, MiG-21bis, Mirage 2000C, AJS-37, F-5E :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 The TM Warthog was the best Joystick for years. Gesendet von meinem SM-G950F mit Tapatalk Nope...x65f "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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