Unstable

Hi, since the update that implemented the EGT limits I find the Huey to be much more unstable than before. Does someone feel this as well or is it just me?

DCS UH-1H

Engine EGT limits were implemented

Fine tuning of the engine and hover modelling was done, discrepancy with real chart now not exceeding 2.7%.

Cargo indicator logic was remade for cargo unhook aid mode.

Bug when you drop/unhook sling load cargo but cargo weight is still affecting airframe was fixed

Sling load cargo drop cockpit controls were implemented

Do you mean physically unstable in flight? Not seeing that myself...

In hover, its like she doesnt wanna stay there.

NTTR/Normandy or Caucasus?

In hover, its like she doesnt wanna stay there.

It is a helicopter, it’s in her nature to give you a bad time :). She just requires constant tiny control corrections.

In hover, its like she doesnt wanna stay there.

Now that I think about it, someone here mentioned that all NTTR aircraft actually feel a tiny bit more lively after the latest patch. This may well be true, but IMO, the difference really is minuscule if it's there at all. So I'm willing to believe no FMs were changed unless stated otherwise.

This may be a daft question, but have you checked your controllers are OK?

Caucasus.

Guys, what im saying is that immediately after the patch I started having harder times in hover.

No not with the Huey. The mi8 on the other hand seems way more squirrely to me than it used to after having taken a 2 or 3 month break from it.

seems way more squirrely to me than it used to

Not seeing this. Maybe, just maybe, it is a tiny tad more lively in how it responds to controller inputs, but that's all.

Running v2.2 myself, no idea how it behaves in v1.5.

Before last update it was possible to hover without touching collective control and staying at a fixed altitude. Maybe it was fine to compensate for the lack of depth of field and altitude perception but it was unreal.

Now it is more demanding (but not that much) to stay at a exact hovering altitude and collective movements must be very precise. Eventhough it doesn't match perfectly the real aircraft, where almost any control movement must be compensated adjusting any other control, it gets closer to it. Much more interesting but a little bit steeper learning curve.

Just don't chase the reading.

Before last update it was possible to hover without touching collective control and staying at a fixed altitude. Maybe it was fine to compensate for the lack of depth of field and altitude perception but it was unreal.

 

Now it is more demanding (but not that much) to stay at a exact hovering altitude and collective movements must be very precise. Eventhough it doesn't match perfectly the real aircraft, where almost any control movement must be compensated adjusting any other control, it gets closer to it. Much more interesting but a little bit steeper learning curve.

 

Just don't chase the reading.

I dont agree with this at all. Not only I can hover at the exact same altitude with no collective input, but also every power change requires a control change as well.

I think that what msalama said is whats happening to me. Controls are more responsive now.

I always struggled with descending smoothly before. The more precise collective is making landing easier for me.

Caucasus.

 

Guys, what im saying is that immediately after the patch I started having harder times in hover.

Have you checked to make sure that random assignments of collective/cyclic was not done? Every patch for me adds these axis commands to every USB controller I have.

Have you checked to make sure that random assignments of collective/cyclic was not done? Every patch for me adds these axis commands to every USB controller I have.

I could check. Thanks

attach a short track showing the issues.

 

I don't have a problem myself.

Caucasus.

 

Guys, what im saying is that immediately after the patch I started having harder times in hover.

I must admit that since the updates, I find hovering and taxi in the Huey to be much more controlled and easier. I can even land now (most of the time) without breaking something or killing myself. Maybe it's just coincidence, but I've been trying to hover and land the Huey for more than 6 months without as much success as in the past few weeks since the updates.

you have clicked in the huey.

congratulations.

its the same as learning to ride a bike.

once it clicks you wonder what all the fuss was about.

you have clicked in the huey.

 

congratulations.

 

its the same as learning to ride a bike.

 

once it clicks you wonder what all the fuss was about.

huh?

McFlurry is a real military UH-1H pilot.

He was doing literally hundreds tests with the DCS Huey and he is very cautious making statements about the helicopter. I can asure you if he says the Huey now needs more collective-controls adjustment is because is true.

McFlurry is a real military UH-1H pilot.

 

He was doing literally hundreds tests with the DCS Huey and he is very cautious making statements about the helicopter. I can asure you if he says the Huey now needs more collective-controls adjustment is because is true.

I have 300hs in the Huey as well. Argentine Air Force. I also flew the Mirage III.

You are welcome to trust me too :)

Anyway, maybe McFlurry is talking about 2.2.

His tests are in 1.5.8, Caucasus map.

Well, then it must be just a feeling of mine. I mainly wanted to see what others thought about the Huey after last update.

Thanks.

Just a thought on this: could it be that certain DCS performance issues, especially in online flying, influence how the ship feels, even with no actual change to the flight modelling?

Before last update it was possible to hover without touching collective control and staying at a fixed altitude. Maybe it was fine to compensate for the lack of depth of field and altitude perception but it was unreal.

 

Now it is more demanding (but not that much) to stay at a exact hovering altitude and collective movements must be very precise. Eventhough it doesn't match perfectly the real aircraft, where almost any control movement must be compensated adjusting any other control, it gets closer to it. Much more interesting but a little bit steeper learning curve.

 

Just don't chase the reading.

Which is why VR is *THE PERFECT* thing for Huey. The types of missions, the lack of air to air missions etc, makes it so perfect for VR. It's simply glorious in VR. I can actually taxi and follow a bunch of Blackhawks as they took off (Nevada instant free flight mission) and I can routinely land the bird on the oil platforms and top of bldgs after getting the VR. OK, getting a real life version of collective certainly helped too. But VR is transformational technology for DCS.

OK, getting a real life version of collective certainly helped too. But VR is transformational technology for DCS.

I envy you.