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Old 04-22-2019, 12:18 PM   #11
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Your bullet logic is...well, illogical. Missiles fired from a plane going faster go faster because they are propelled. Bullets fire from a plane going faster hit higher resistance and slow immediately, so neither muzzle velocity nor terminal bullet speed change because friction and gravity are always slowing a bullet down.

6x.50's should be able to tear up light armor vehicles and soft targets like trucks. In real life a .50 passing close to a human is enough to disable if not outright kill a human. I think people get wound up on effectiveness of the .50 though; while it is a high velocity, high energy round it's still a small caliber bullet. It has no mass really, so for it to be effective you have to put a shitload of rounds in target AND hit your target at convergence. If you aren't massing your bullets you aren't getting your all out of a set of .50's. That was the magic of that weapons system, when you hit on convergence you have the energy and the bullet mass to do real work.

I'm sure a lot of you have time behind the M2 like I do. It's an impressive weapon in many regards!!
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Old 08-31-2019, 11:25 PM   #12
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Glad to report things have definitely been improved!

I took a break from DCS and only fired it up tonight. Created a quick mission in the editor and one of the first things I noticed was that lightly armored vehicles are no longer indestructible . The Sd.Kfz.251 can now be destroyed quite easily even by a not-so-current virtual P51 pilot using good old mouse and keyboard combo Trucks seem to take more damage, too. The .50 cals on the Mustang finally feel like a powerful weapon so thanks ED for fixing it.

I wonder what you're going to say now Robert. I may not have real-world experience behind the M2 but it turns out you don't need to in order to know what is and isn't underpowered after a little research.
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Old 09-01-2019, 04:04 PM   #13
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Your bullet logic is...well, illogical. Missiles fired from a plane going faster go faster because they are propelled. Bullets fire from a plane going faster hit higher resistance and slow immediately, so neither muzzle velocity nor terminal bullet speed change because friction and gravity are always slowing a bullet down.

6x.50's should be able to tear up light armor vehicles and soft targets like trucks. In real life a .50 passing close to a human is enough to disable if not outright kill a human. I think people get wound up on effectiveness of the .50 though; while it is a high velocity, high energy round it's still a small caliber bullet. It has no mass really, so for it to be effective you have to put a shitload of rounds in target AND hit your target at convergence. If you aren't massing your bullets you aren't getting your all out of a set of .50's. That was the magic of that weapons system, when you hit on convergence you have the energy and the bullet mass to do real work.

I'm sure a lot of you have time behind the M2 like I do. It's an impressive weapon in many regards!!

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