Svsmokey Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I would consider G2 . Not crazy about WMR or Steam VR , but at least I would have control over updates , something Oculus refuses to allow . Also , further development of Oculus pc headsets seems questionable at this point . Having said that , i acknowledge that the Quest has prolly done more to grow VR than any headset , which is good for all of us . I hope HP uses better cameras in the G2 , i often come out of VR to an entirely dark room , and the S tracking is still flawless in DCS . 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I would consider G2 . Not crazy about WMR or Steam VR , but at least I would have control over updates , something Oculus refuses to allow . Also , further development of Oculus pc headsets seems questionable at this point . Having said that , i acknowledge that the Quest has prolly done more to grow VR than any headset , which is good for all of us . I hope HP uses better cameras in the G2 , i often come out of VR to an entirely dark room , and the S tracking is still flawless in DCS . Except that you don't have any control over Steam or WMR updates! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Except that you don't have any control over Steam or WMR updates! I certainly have control over WMR , as i have Windows updates off (except security) , and i have read that it is possible to control Steam VR updates as well... 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Instant buy. I was one of the first owners when the reverb came out. After the first bad batch. I got the good one from HP. Enjoy it everyday. Zero issues after having the rift. Hope for 4k for each eye. HP is going for reasonable prices. :D New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I certainly have control over WMR , as i have Windows updates off (except security) , and i have read that it is possible to control Steam VR updates as well... Hmm, not sure if WMR is a Windows thing or a Steam thing. I think it's done from updating WMR for SteamVR. You might be able to do some kind of hack to stop updating, but not sure. Anyway, personally, I always update and have never had an issue. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) WMR = Windows Mixed Reality . I subscribe to the "If it ain't broke , don't fix it" philosophy . I'm still running Nvidea 432 for example . It also has the benefit of easing troubleshooting when there is a problem . (Is it the Windows update , the Oculus update , the DCS update or the Nvidea update that broke my system ?) [Edit] this page shows several alternatives for disabling Steam updates . https://appuals.com/how-to-disable-steam-auto-updates/ Edited May 25, 2020 by Svsmokey 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 WMR = Windows Mixed Reality . I subscribe to the "If it ain't broke , don't fix it" philosophy . I'm still running Nvidea 432 for example . It also has the benefit of easing troubleshooting when there is a problem . (Is it the Windows update , the Oculus update , the DCS update or the Nvidea update that broke my system ?) [Edit] this page shows several alternatives for disabling Steam updates . https://appuals.com/how-to-disable-steam-auto-updates/ That page doesn’t actually show that at all. It just shows how to save bandwidth by choosing your time etc. The one method that does ‘work’ means you can’t play the game! Not sure what you mean by ‘WMR - Windows Mixed Reality’. My point is that it’s WMR for SteamVR that you run, and it’s likely that contains the updates which are also done automatically. The trouble with the ‘if it ain’t broke...’ approach is that you don’t get the benefits of updates and new features. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 That page doesn’t actually show that at all. It just shows how to save bandwidth by choosing your time etc. The one method that does ‘work’ means you can’t play the game! Not sure what you mean by ‘WMR - Windows Mixed Reality’. My point is that it’s WMR for SteamVR that you run, and it’s likely that contains the updates which are also done automatically. The trouble with the ‘if it ain’t broke...’ approach is that you don’t get the benefits of updates and new features. Still wrong , options 1 and 4 will work . But that's ok , i have no skin in how you wish to run your pc . Enjoy ! 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Still wrong , options 1 and 4 will work . But that's ok , i have no skin in how you wish to run your pc . Enjoy ! Sorry, but, no, option 1 will not work. Whenever you play the game, it will update. Option 4 is the hack I mentioned earlier. Use it at your own risk! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (1) pointless to argue further (2) Thank you , i will :) 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 It's not an argument hopefully, it's just a fact. Option 1 will not stop your game updating. All it does is change when or how it happens. Sorry that you seem to be taking offence at my attempts to help. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 You are correct re: option 1 I take no offence , and hope you don't either . Note that i am currently running an S , and don't run Steam VR . Have downloaded it (twice) , but i find Open Composite for sims that would otherwise require it runs better . Perhaps we can end this excursion , and allow The G2 topic back on to the rails ? 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motomouse Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 G2 roooocks! Or not! Looking forward to the specs :-) VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunSlingerAUS Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) You don’t like reprojection, yet you’re happy to accept the 60Hz constant flickering. Interesting. Yep. I can adjust to the dimmer, slight flicker of 60 more than the extreme ghosting and judder caused by WMR's reprojection. I wish I didn't notice reprojection like many, but it seems my eyes are very sensitive to it. That's what happens when you've trained your Mark 1s with games for over 35 years!!! Edited May 25, 2020 by GunSlingerAUS Intel 11900K/NVIDIA RTX 3090/32GB DDR4 3666/Z590 Asus Maximus motherboard/2TB Samsung EVO Pro/55" LG C9 120Hz @ 4K/Windows 10/Jotunheim Schiit external headphone amp/Virpil HOTAS + MFG Crosswind pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motomouse Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I also can not stand reprojection. Fluid 60 FPS are much better. VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Vados Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 New gen will be announced this Thursday https://twitter.com/HP/status/1264952520759263233 Previous leak is aligning perfectly with the video from twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Hmm, exciting! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Wow . Wasn't expecting this so soon... 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Tomorrow we know the specs from this beauty. I bet 2 Times 4k lenses. 2020 gonna be a New Evolution. Yeah come to daddy. I have High expectations for this One. :D New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Tomorrow we know the specs from this beauty. I bet 2 Times 4k lenses. 2020 gonna be a New Evolution. Yeah come to daddy. I have High expectations for this One. :D But the existing Reverb is 2 x 4k. 2 x 2160 x 2160. What are you expecting in G2? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 Yep looking forward to hearing more about it tomorrow. Hope it is not just drips and drabs. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunSlingerAUS Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 But the existing Reverb is 2 x 4k. 2 x 2160 x 2160. What are you expecting in G2? Two 4K screens would be 38040 x 2160 each. There isn’t a GPU coming in the next few years that could handle this. Intel 11900K/NVIDIA RTX 3090/32GB DDR4 3666/Z590 Asus Maximus motherboard/2TB Samsung EVO Pro/55" LG C9 120Hz @ 4K/Windows 10/Jotunheim Schiit external headphone amp/Virpil HOTAS + MFG Crosswind pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Two 4K screens would be 38040 x 2160 each. There isn’t a GPU coming in the next few years that could handle this. 2 x 82 million pixels? Now that would be something! :thumbup: Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I really hope for increased FOV and sweet spot I rather see 'em not increase resolution as well, as I don't think current hardware could handle it and I'm actually quite happy with current resolution System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I really hope for increased FOV and sweet spot I rather see 'em not increase resolution as well, as I don't think current hardware could handle it and I'm actually quite happy with current resolution Yep, agreed. I want to see bigger sweet spot and FOV. I would also love to see the Index type audio. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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