Rift S

Does anyone have plans to buy an oculus rift s ?

If so can you please post you opinion on wether it helps with the clarity and being able to read the small number on the controls as well as how much it helps with the screen door effect? Thanks

Hp reverb its better. Or valve index or vive cosmos.

No, got Rift CV-1 next VR will not be from Oculus.

Hard to say as the Rift S is not out in the public domain yet.

Just getting on board with the DCS setup and only have a PSVR on a PS4 Pro which may be a temporary solution for DCS until I get a better one. Still researching them. Seems like most have the Rift but the Rift S isn't much of an upgrade.

If you were starting fresh like me what VR would you pick for my setup? Anyone do a spreadsheet comparison?

I'd look at the Pimax 5k, Oddesey plus, HP reverb, and whatever is coming next from Vive. Reverb isn't out yet, and who knows on the Vive.

The main metric you want to undersand is PPD (pixels per degree of view). The higher that number the better its going to look. But wider FOV is appealing to people too. So its a tradeoff. A 2080 should be able to run any of those headsets, but it might struggle.

Just wait 2 months for the currently announced headsets to come out. There will be plenty reviews from early adopters. No point in buying Pimax or Odyssey+ right now, unless you get good deals on them.

Sounds like good advice in the interim. I will learn as much as I can in the meantime. I have a PSVR on a PS4 Pro that I read on here will work temporarily but it doesn't sound worth the effort for a few months.

If I get bored I might put together a little chart of the choices. I need pictures.

Keep in mind that there's more to it than just screen resolution. Comfort, software maturity, tracking method, screen type (OLED vs LCD, pentile vs RGB), IPD adjustment, built-in audio, controllers (if you're into other games) etc...

There's no perfect headset on the horizon.

Keeping an open mind myself . Standing at the edge of the sea-ice , waiting for another DCS penguin to jump in first ...

It sounds like the Reverb should be out of the gate B4 the end of April.

who’s going to go first?

not me

yeah, this is a tough decision.

me neither until they are so good that I might have a chance to overcome this damn nausea.

My hope is that improved visual quality will strain my head less and thus not trigger nausea too much.

I love that Rift but cant use it the way I wish I could. Might even sell it soon before it gets obsolete, if it isnt already.

yeah, this is a tough decision.

 

me neither until they are so good that I might have a chance to overcome this damn nausea.

 

My hope is that improved visual quality will strain my head less and thus not trigger nausea too much.

 

I love that Rift but cant use it the way I wish I could. Might even sell it soon before it gets obsolete, if it isnt already.

I'd recommend trying to sell it *NOW* if you can't get past the nausea. Rift S won't be much of a competitor. 5K+, Reverb's and Samsung O+ already are. Well, not Reverb, but it will be.

Rift S may be good for public adoption, but for DCS, it'll blow.

Reverb is intended as a solution for business, so apart from visual clarity, software optimization and latency could be an issue for dcs. Maybe vive pro or odissey+ are still the sweet spot between visual clarity and gaming optimization, but the price Is High, for vive in particular. It Is Better to wait next steam and vive solutions. And also Rift s could be a good choice: not so much boost in tech on paper, but we have to see It in real Life; I love Oculus cv1 experience and software environment (much Better than steam VR imho) and Rift s price Is low. So we'll see. I'd like to upgrade my cv1 and every solution has its pros and cons.

Rift S may be good for public adoption, but for DCS, it'll blow.

Why, may I ask? Is it somehow worse that Gen 1 sets?

Why, may I ask? Is it somehow worse that Gen 1 sets?

Exactly. My current Rift has given me almost 2 years of VR/Sim pleasure via DCS. :thumbup:

Why, may I ask? Is it somehow worse that Gen 1 sets?

No, but people are already getting tribal about different hedsets without even knowing their specs, not to mention actually trying them.

Rift S may be good for public adoption, but for DCS, it'll blow.

Why, may I ask? Is it somehow worse that Gen 1 sets?

Exactly. My current Rift has given me almost 2 years of VR/Sim pleasure via DCS.

I don't think so. I doubt Rift s is worse than rift cv1, maybe not (on paper) those huge step in VR tech that oculus fans hoped to see, but we could compare the final experience of all these new devices (both in DCS and in other VR games in general) when they will be on sale. Before that it's only speculation.

Reverb is intended as a solution for business, so apart from visual clarity, software optimization and latency could be an issue for dcs. Maybe vive pro or odissey+ are still the sweet spot between visual clarity and gaming optimization, but the price Is High, for vive in particular. It Is Better to wait next steam and vive solutions. And also Rift s could be a good choice: not so much boost in tech on paper, but we have to see It in real Life; I love Oculus cv1 experience and software environment (much Better than steam VR imho) and Rift s price Is low. So we'll see. I'd like to upgrade my cv1 and every solution has its pros and cons.

This . As the Valve is increasingly looking to be at/near the same unplayable resolution as the Reverb , it is either the Rift S or Odyssey for me . I'm reading that the subpixel arrangement will provide an effective resolution higher than the "book" value . Fortunately , my IPD is very near the mean , and it looks like there will be a better audio solution available as an optional extra .

No, but people are already getting tribal about different hedsets without even knowing their specs, not to mention actually trying them.

Tribal about what? I've owned DK1, DK2, CV1, Vive, Odyssey and now P5K+.

Rift S is a marginal improvement over CV1. All of us Rift users were expecting big things from Oculus. They opted to go to the mainstream and took away things like headphones and tracking. The only thing it has going for it is that the software is more mature than others. But Vive has caught up, WMR is catching up fast, and Pimax is getting better every week. To me, there is ZERO reason to go with Rift S.

Sure, inside out tracking is OK, especially for DCS users. But Vive was much better than Rift in terms of tracking, and Rift was better than Odyssey (original). I know because I used all of them.

And Rift's specs were published. What conjecture is there?

Finally, some may become enamored with a particular vendor/tech. I'm not that guy. I switched from Radeon to NVidia, HMD - I already explained, and I'll jump on AMD the instant it gives better performance for DCS.

From the specs, Rift S will have comparable image clarity to pimax 5k+. Without of course the extra FOV, but it has the same vertical resolution and screen type. Yet I haven't seen anyone saying that image quality in Pimax is "marginal improvement over CV1" or that it "blows".

Sure, for YOU there is zero reason to buy Rift S if you already have a 1.5 gen headset. For gen 1 owners, this still looks like viable option. Probably cheaper and less demanding on hardware than other upcoming headsets.

And Rift's specs were published. What conjecture is there?

I was referring to the first answer in this thread.

Why, may I ask? Is it somehow worse that Gen 1 sets?

It's not worse than gen 1. But after three years, we Rift owners, were looking forward to a much better HMD. What we got was an Oculus Go lens with a headset that removed the built-in headphones for a speaker that's built-in. Which I guess means you can't play it when there are others around.

The resolution is a mediocre upgrade of 1280X1440 per eye when HMD have much better resolution *right* now. Odyssey Plus is 1,440 x 1,600 and Pimax with 2560X1440 per eye.

I guess I can sum it by saying "after three years of CV1, this is all you got?"

Clearly, they want to attack the consumer market with a lower ASP and that's fine. I just won't be along for the ride.

From the specs, Rift S will have comparable image clarity to pimax 5k+. Without of course the extra FOV, but it has the same vertical resolution and screen type. Yet I haven't seen anyone saying that image quality in Pimax is "marginal improvement over CV1" or that it "blows".

 

Sure, for YOU there is zero reason to buy Rift S if you already have a 1.5 gen headset. For gen 1 owners, this still looks like viable option. Probably cheaper and less demanding on hardware than other upcoming headsets.

 

I was referring to the first answer in this thread.

Wait, maybe I missed something. Rift S, I thought, had significantly lower resolution than P5K+. Did I get that wrong?

P5K is much better than Rift. If Rift S is on par with Pimax5K+, I would reconsider even with the smaller FOV. Well, maybe not. I've gotten spoiled by the FoV of P5K+. But if Rift S is just as clear, I'd consider it.

Pimax is 2560X1440 per eye, Rift is 1280x1440 per eye. Same vertical resolution, the extra pixels in Pimax go for extra horizontal FOV, pixel size in both headsets should be similar. Of course a lot depends on the optics, and Oculus S won't have adjustable IPD. We'll see.

On the other hand, if you compare with Vive Pro and Odyssey+, those headsets have theoretically higher resolution, but they have pentile screens with less overall subpixels count than LCD RGB screens in Go/Rift S. So that should offset lower resolution somewhat.

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Of course Rift S won't have vivd colours of latest OLEDs, and super headphones, and killer resolution screens, but hey, it's 400$ and won't require 2080 Ti to run DCS at decent FPS.