Ryzen 5 1600X or i5 7600K for DCS

Intels i9's are like 2.6GHz, compared to 3.4+ for AMDs ThreadRipper.

DCS needs to move with the times, if it is to survive.

I still think the ED Team consists of some smart guys and they knew this 1-core/GHz problem long ago as well. Now that the market shows some very clear tendencies, as does the DCS sim it is only logical to not exclude it but rather favour it...and at a later time dedicate time and dev-power to it when it makes most sense, past 2.5 or when the ded. server is up top on the list etc..

DCS needs to move with the times, if it is to survive.

the times move faster than the software development.

otherwise we'd be on DX12 or Vulkan.

i have always relied on intel, just feels like a safe choice, but each and to their own.

if people knew some of the behind the scenese business practices Intel does, you'd prolly not love them as much.

if people knew some of the behind the scenese business practices Intel does, you'd prolly not love them as much.

Most people could care less. What Amazon does behind the scenes isn't good, either, but it doesn't prevent me from buying from them or investing in them and that investment has made a very large amount of money for me.

Most people could care less. What Amazon does behind the scenes isn't good, either, but it doesn't prevent me from buying from them or investing in them and that investment has made a very large amount of money for me.

Yes, i think we had that debate last year. The postmen-job, the future dream of any school kid..become an amazon driver or drone-techie

... I mostly play DCS, but still went with Ryzen because LGA1151 has no future upgrade options, but AM4 is just starting life. I have high hopes for Ryzen+ or Ryzen 2, I feel like the next few optimization of this new architecture are going to really refine it and greatly improve the rough around the edges issues it currently has. By buying into a good name brand X370 board now, you should be able to get into these next generations when they arrive.

I wouldnt be so sure .. the upcoming Ryzen high end processors use a different socket: TR4 rather than AM4 ... and a new chipset too: X399

https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2017/07/amd-threadripper-1950x-1920x-price/

I wouldnt be so sure .. the upcoming Ryzen high end processors use a different socket: TR4 rather than AM4 ... and a new chipset too: X399

 

 

https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2017/07/amd-threadripper-1950x-1920x-price/

Thread Ripper CPUs arent normal Consumer CPUs they are meant for Professional Use.

Consumer Ryzen CPUs will stay on AM4 until 2021+

Professional Thread Ripper on TR4,

Server EPYC on SP3

Great.

We get a new EDGE engine and then find out it doesn't support SLI properly and ED are not going to correct the issue.

Now we are hearing that it wont support multi thread CPU's either and is not likely to without a major rewrite.

Is there any modern technology ED is going to support in the next 5 years ?

After spending several hundred $$ buying aircraft and several thousand on equipment, forgive me if I'm feeling a little duped.

Great.

 

We get a new EDGE engine and then find out it doesn't support SLI properly and ED are not going to correct the issue.

 

Now we are hearing that it wont support multi thread CPU's either and is not likely to without a major rewrite.

 

Is there any modern technology ED is going to support in the next 5 years ?

 

After spending several hundred $$ buying aircraft and several thousand on equipment, forgive me if I'm feeling a little duped.

Well, this is old news for DCS. It never claimed to support multi-threading or SMP of any kind and SLI and CF have been dropped by Nvidia and AMD themselves mostly as well, new mGPU is to be found in future DX12 titles and updates for older apps - or Vulcan.

We all wished DCS could use 32 cores and 4 GPU's - NO DOUBT !!!!!!

Watch the SideStrafe Interview with Wags and make your own assumptions. I personally am confident I will see Multi-CPU/GPU in DCS in less than 5 years, just my personal guess.

ED Never Said SLi/CrossFire X would not be corrected.

Thread Ripper CPUs arent normal Consumer CPUs they are meant for Professional Use.

Actually, rather than using the term "professional", AMD said "designed for the High-End Desktop (HEDT) market"

http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/105772-amd-unveils-roadmap-ryzen-threadripper-ryzen-3-apus/

I havent seen an AMD roadmap showing future AM4 processors ... my feel is that most likely new processors will came with new chipsets too, so I wouldnt bet that a current motherboard will allow for any significantly faster processors that AMD may produce in the future.

AM4 is the Socket, not the Chipset.

AM4 is PGA (Pins are On the CPU)

SP3 is LGA (Pins are in the CPU Socket)

TR4 is LGA (Pins are in the CPU Socket)

TR4 is Identical to SP3, But has a Different Chipset, it's also Labeled as SP3v2, AMD Took the EPYC/SP3 Socket and Placed it on a Consumer Board w/ a Consumer Chipset and removed server/embedded features.

Although EPYC and Thread Ripper CPU's are Physically Identical they will not work in the other Socket (ie ThreadRipper in SP3, and EPYC in TR4/SP3v2)

All Consumer CPU and APU's will be on AM4 until 2021, this was stated by Lisa Su.

All HEDT CPU's are Derived from EPYC and Will be on TR4 Sockets w/ LGA

All Server CPUs will be on SP3 Sockets.

Look at AM3/AM3+, Same Socket, 4 Different Chipset Generations.

AMD have said it will last till 2020/2021 or so.

The part I Like,

is nearly Every "Pro Intel" tech site that's bashed AMD since the Athlon Series Launch, has been forced to eat their fists and praise an AMD CPU Finally

Especially the ThreadRipper CPUs

The Intel 7900K CPU is 100,-€ cheaper than it's Ryzen counterpart 1950x at mindfactory.de

It's not 999,- vs. 999,-...it's more like 938,44€(7900k) vs 1.039,00€(1950X) .

Still, those 100;- saved dont add any lanes to the system, and that's where I think is the BIG difference....many drives, 10Gbit, mGPU...all those eat lanes like mad and that's where the Ryzen can shift into another gear and leave any Intel iX in the dust. Maybe not for gaming but production this matters. For DCS that would make zero difference ( for now ).

The part I Like,

 

is nearly Every "Pro Intel" tech site that's bashed AMD since the Athlon Series Launch, has been forced to eat their fists and praise an AMD CPU Finally

 

Especially the ThreadRipper CPUs

look at me, from Saulus to Paulus :music_whistling:

The Intel 7900K CPU is 100,-€ cheaper than it's Ryzen counterpart 1950x at mindfactory.de

 

It's not 999,- vs. 999,-...it's more like 938,44€(7900k) vs 1.039,00€(1950X) .

 

Still, those 100;- saved dont add any lanes to the system, and that's where I think is the BIG difference....many drives, 10Gbit, mGPU...all those eat lanes like mad and that's where the Ryzen can shift into another gear and leave any Intel iX in the dust. Maybe not for gaming but production this matters. For DCS that would make zero difference ( for now ).

localized prices arent AMD's best work, they have some issues in that area still,

SkateZilla............I'm going off topic for a minute. I'm looking at your specs and see you have the TM Warthog and the complete CH setup. How do you work that out? Which do you use and where?

SkateZilla............I'm going off topic for a minute. I'm looking at your specs and see you have the TM Warthog and the complete CH setup. How do you work that out? Which do you use and where?

TM Warthog HOTAS:

-Throttle on a Left Hand Side Shelf,

-Stick on Center Mount bolted to Desk Chair w/ Extension.

CH Setup,

-Throttle Mounted sideways (80° Counter Clockwise) and front down w/ Axis Inverted in DCS (Used as Collective).

-Stick on Right Side Shelf (Rarely Used since Warthog is center Mounted w/ extension, but I sometimes use it as Alternative in other games to the warthog (ie Tank Sims etc))

CH Pedals are under desk.

and they likely to be replaced sooner or later, they take turns w/ my Fanatec CSR EliteRacing Pedals.

All Connected to USB Ports on Rear of Case.

Not what I meant. I was asking what planes/games you fly each controller with.

Not what I meant. I was asking what planes/games you fly each controller with.

TM Warthog HOTAS = All Fixed Wing Aircraft

TM Stick + CH Throttle = All Rotary Wing (Though I Still use Warthog Throttle Switches and stuff, I use the CH Throttle as a make Shift Collective.)

CH Stick is Used for Turrets on Tanks etc in other games.

Ok, thanks. I used the whole CH setup years ago and liked it. Lately, I got the Warthog to fly the A-10c and it was great for that, but I didn't like it for other planes. I ended up selling it and I regret that. If I decide to concentrate on the Hog i'll buy it again.

btw I also have the whole Fanatec setup to race in Grand Prix Legends and Accetta Corsa. I love the 60's F1 cars.

Sorry for the off topic. Carry on.