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Old 10-03-2016, 04:28 AM   #31
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Polychop is interested in doing a Tornado IDS, which I believe is a GR.1 that might have been upgraded by the Germans in their own way, which would be awesome. Razbam would probably do a British GR.1-4, which would also be awesome. I just hope at least one of them really commit to it.
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Old 10-03-2016, 10:23 AM   #32
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A Tornado ECR would be great, we really miss a high-performance SEAD aircraft in DCS. Sure, that would mean the need to also simulate the AGM-88 and the relative avionics.
The F-16 sim has some pretty in-depth and well-educated guesswork on that matter.
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Old 10-03-2016, 10:28 AM   #33
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what's wrong with VEAO ?
they're doing EF2000...
And I haven't got high hopes for that.

Their only piece of work we have, the Hawk, is the only metric of their ability.
The Hawk is by far the worst DCS module out in terms of quality and frequency of updates.
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Old 10-03-2016, 11:14 AM   #34
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I see...
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Old 10-03-2016, 11:27 AM   #35
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And I haven't got high hopes for that.

Their only piece of work we have, the Hawk, is the only metric of their ability.
The Hawk is by far the worst DCS module out in terms of quality and frequency of updates.
Just because the Hawk isn't the best module ever in DCS you think the rest of their modules will also be bad?

I don't know if VEAO made any aircraft for any game but if it's their first than perhaps they've learned a lot more to it.

So no need to be on the negative side for future modules.
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Old 10-03-2016, 05:51 PM   #36
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Just because the Hawk isn't the best module ever in DCS you think the rest of their modules will also be bad?

I don't know if VEAO made any aircraft for any game but if it's their first than perhaps they've learned a lot more to it.

So no need to be on the negative side for future modules.
It's not that it's not the best module ever. It's just so horrible and it was sold as if it were a finished product. Which it still isn't, and then they moved on to other projects instead of fixing their mess.

I'd rather err on the side of caution than get excited for something they make until I start seeing quality I've come to expect from DCS modules.

I must clarify, my issue isn't that it's the best ever and I didn't say that. My issue is that there's no ambiguity about the worst module out at the moment in terms of cosmetic appearance and performance as a simulated aircraft.
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Old 10-03-2016, 06:16 PM   #37
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I know this is off topic but... I see both sides and to be honest Id rather not expect anything and be pleasantly surprised. It dose not affect me and theirs nothing but benefits to be had by just trying. The whole "They have one unfinished module" argument is a little..pretentious...Polychop have one aircraft, leatherneck, RAZBAM and Aviodev. They may not have made a smash entrance into DCS like Leathernecks Mig-21BIS but I am sure they are aware of the good and the bad. If there is one thing DCS could use more of is devs. This is an extremely passionate community and as such we have nothing but the highest expectations of developers to earn out hard earned $. We are a tough bunch to please . As for the Tornado (and basically any other wish list post)....yes...just...hell yes, any version!
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Old 10-03-2016, 06:35 PM   #38
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Polychop have one aircraft, leatherneck, RAZBAM and Aviodev.
None of these first attempts have anything on how bad the Hawk is. Someone needs to be vocal over it otherwise how will they know not to do it again.
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Old 10-04-2016, 03:49 PM   #39
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I have to reluctantly agree with the operator here. Reluctantly, because I dont like to talk bad about people trying to work hard and do a job I couldnt do myself.

What concerns me about VEAO is that they have the worst rated module in the game and, at the same time, the biggest list of projects... In addition, they want to do the Typhoon... a very new plane which is mostly still a secret.

That says to me that they have a serious issue with understanding the scope of the job they embarked on, and some bad decision making.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:33 PM   #40
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That says to me that they have a serious issue with understanding the scope of the job they embarked on, and some bad decision making.
Exactly this, nothing against them as people, but as a studio they don't seem to always make the best decisions
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