DarkStar Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) In the real world Joint Mission Planning System and the Viper there is a set of lines and routes available to plan and write to the Digital Transfer Cartridge. It would be nice to be able to have more lines displayed on the HSD page rather than just your one route. It is useful to define Military Operating Areas for example, No Fly Zones, tanker areas or other defined airspaces through an air coordination order. So my wish is to have a separate Mission Planning tool apart from the Mission Builder that has the ability to plan more routes and lines and import into the aircraft, along with target coordinates (disconnected routes) and other points of interests. This applies to other aircraft as well. Best, Darkstar Edited September 26, 2019 by DarkStar HSI = HSD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupra Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Ion the HSI page F-16 does not have an HSI page…. :music_whistling:You will have to to paint it yourself on your maps and think where you are and where your are going to fly. DCS F-16C Blk. 40/42 :helpsmilie: Candidate - 480th VFS - Cupra | 06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eddie Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 F-16 does not have an HSI page…. :music_whistling:You will have to to paint it yourself on your maps and think where you are and where your are going to fly. It does have an HSD page though, which is exactly what displays this kind of data. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkthunder Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 F-16 does not have an HSI page…. :music_whistling:You will have to to paint it yourself on your maps and think where you are and where your are going to fly. You completely missed the point. The HSI on the F-16 is called HSD (basically the same thing). The HDS displays your flight-plan, waypoints, SAM/threat circles, your radar coverage and locked radar contacts, datalink contacts such as the position of your wingmen and their A-A radar targets etc. It is by all means very similar to the SA page in the Hornet, minus the moving map. There are two very useful features, given the lack of a moving map: 1. custom dashed lines can be drawn anywhere during the planning phase, and will be displayed in the HSD. These can be used to create areas (boxes), or as single lines, for example to mark the boundary where the FLOT starts. 2. Threat circles, according to where the threat is and what type of threat, you can place a sort of mark point that will display with the threat name and a yellow circle that becomes red if you enter it. These points can also be used just as a name tag (without circle) that can be useful to place names of cities or points of interest. The above makes the moving map much less necessary and allows very precise mission planning. 3 Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geraki Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 You completely missed the point. The HSI on the F-16 is called HSD (basically the same thing). The HDS displays your flight-plan, waypoints, SAM/threat circles, your radar coverage and locked radar contacts, datalink contacts such as the position of your wingmen and their A-A radar targets etc. It is by all means very similar to the SA page in the Hornet, minus the moving map. There are two very useful features, given the lack of a moving map: 1. custom dashed lines can be drawn anywhere during the planning phase, and will be displayed in the HSD. These can be used to create areas (boxes), or as single lines, for example to mark the boundary where the FLOT starts. 2. Threat circles, according to where the threat is and what type of threat, you can place a sort of mark point that will display with the threat name and a yellow circle that becomes red if you enter it. These points can also be used just as a name tag (without circle) that can be useful to place names of cities or points of interest. The above makes the moving map much less necessary and allows very precise mission planning. F very nice explained and I think DCS could create a tool or UI option to make uploaded in F-16 Data Transfer Cartridge (DTC) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 F-16 does not have an HSI page…. :music_whistling:You will have to to paint it yourself on your maps and think where you are and where your are going to fly. Sorry, it's been awhile since I worked with the jet so I mispelled HSI, i meant the HSD of course. And the lack of a map makes the lines feature an absolute must IRL, like bkthunder underscores in his post. Will update 1st post to reflect the change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkthunder Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 How is this even in the wishlist when it's a basic feature of the F-16?? 2 Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusC42B Pilot Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 OP means geo lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/1/2021 at 12:15 PM, IkarusC42B Pilot said: OP means geo lines I mean both, NAV lines and geo lines, but also points like targets and threats. In JMPS (unclass) you can assign different functions to "lines" and have them appear with different looks, differentiating a route (waypoints) from a FLOT, or a FAOR or whatever you like (dashed - full, red,yellow cyan etc). On 6/1/2021 at 10:33 AM, bkthunder said: How is this even in the wishlist when it's a basic feature of the F-16?? Indeed, a core function and extremely basic, but alas not found in DCS yet, sadly. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Munkwolf Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 10:49 AM, DarkStar said: Indeed, a core function and extremely basic, but alas not found in DCS yet, sadly. Hopefully that and other things are on the way for the Viper now that the Hornet is in good shape to capture that Top Gun 2 interest/money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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