DCS: F-16CM Block 50 by EDSA Discussion Thread

Do you know if loading HARMS or having the HTS equipped gives you an MFD page with better capability to locate SAM contacts or is targeting somehow done through the RWR?

Yes.

The page is called HAD and I'm really curious how ED will make it.

The functionality is not common stuff which can be find via Google.

Can I set RWR on MFD and/or on HUD? Dedicated RWR display is obscured by UFC, really not ergonomic design.

Believe me it's a great location, then if you use trackir there's no problem

So if bomb codes can’t be set from the Viper pit (per comments below the latest video) then where do you set them? Data Cartridge? Mission Editor? Ground Crew Loadout Screen?

So if bomb codes can’t be set from the Viper pit (per comments below the latest video) then where do you set them? Data Cartridge? Mission Editor? Ground Crew Loadout Screen?

I guess all of the above are valid until the DTC development finishes.

I guess a tab in the ME or via the kneeboard on the ground. The bomb's code can only be changed by the ground crew IRL. The fact that we can currently change it in cockpit in the Hornet is a workaround.

I guess all of the above are valid until the DTC development finishes.

I know how it works IRL.

I’m asking how DCS will implement it as it’s a new thing in the Viper (and will it become the new universal standard (eventually?))

I’m asking how DCS will implement it

There ya go...

Seems to suggest that the data cartridge will be ready in time for the early access release, but I will try not to get my hopes up too much until we get some official clarification.

Seems to suggest that the data cartridge will be ready in time for the early access release, but I will try not to get my hopes up too much until we get some official clarification.

Kinda needs to be or GBU’s will be unusable in multi-player.

Kinda needs to be or GBU’s will be unusable in multi-player.

Well, what about markpoints and steerpoints?

Not really makes it unusable.

in Addition for CCRP HUD at pull up you must display the 45 degrees TOSS ANTICIPATION CUE flashing....

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The pilot flies the FPM to the azimuth steering line to fly directly to the release point. As the release point

is approached, the pilot depresses and holds the WPN REL. Ten seconds prior to pull-up, the pull-up anticipation

cue appears at the top of the HUD and the horizontal bar pull-up cue appears at the bottom of the

HUD, both of which move toward the FPM. Pull-up is indicated when the pull-up anticipation cue and the

horizontal bar reach the FPM . At this point the pilot increases pitch to keep the FPM on the

horizontal bar while continuing to maintain the azimuth steering centered and holding the WPN REL down.

The pull-up anticipation becomes a solution cue at the pull-up time, moves to the top of the HUD, and moves

toward the FPM as the release point is approached. When the solution cue is coincident with

the FPM indicating a bombing solution is reached, the weapon is released automatically as indicated by a

flashing FPM. The FPM will flash until the pilot releases WPN REL.

https://lektsii.org/7-38071.html

Well, what about markpoints and steerpoints?

 

Not really makes it unusable.

What about them, they have nothing to do with weapon terminal guidance...? You still need different LASER codes to your wingman and other flights in the area.

Eddie,

IRL what is the source document for what laser codes are used? (If you can say)

Beyond what the weapons can physically be set to I don’t have anything for the operators that is shareable under 1.16.

Good news

Hi,

Some good news for players who waiting the viper : https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4043099&postcount=174

More and more enginers working on F16C !

Hi,

 

Some good news for players who waiting the viper : https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4043099&postcount=174

 

More and more enginers working on F16C !

Only temporarily.... by a develop release situation. :music_whistling:

In order to hit our Viper release window, we have very recently had to temporarily move a couple of the systems programmers from the Hornet onto the Viper for a short period

Hi,

 

Some good news for players who waiting the viper : https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4043099&postcount=174

 

More and more enginers working on F16C !

Yes, good news for Viper pilots, bad news for Hornet pilots....:huh:

Wow!

Great news!

Eddie,

 

IRL what is the source document for what laser codes are used? (If you can say)

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but the codes you are able to enter on the weapon itself appear in a diagram of the GBU-12 on page 36 of NWP 3-22.5-FA18A/B/C/D, the Hornet Tactical Pocket Manual. Can't post it here of course, but it is readily available online.

Are we to expect Small Diameter Bombs for the Viper ? Image showing four SDBs:

Are we to expect Small Diameter Bombs for the Viper ? Image showing four SDBs:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=243974

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=241183

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=243974

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=241183

The above image looks realistic :cry:

Something I want to keep bringing up because I hope it stays fresh in peoples mind. If and when the F-16 module is release. If ED stay with the same version they announce (we all know or should know that can change) it will be a F-16C block 50, from USAF, After CCIP upgrade circa 2007.

 

Counter measure panels have change, Avionics power panels have change. Engine Starting Systems Controller have change, Flight control Computers have change, RWR, Engine, JHMCS; the list goes on. I am only talking about USAF F-16C block 50, not even thinking about other countries.

 

So before making a post saying this or that is wrong, please lets all make sure what versions we are looking at. Before posting that "chart" about turn performance, what flight control software and computer is that chart based on? On the USAF block 50 alone there are several different flight control computer and software.

 

Before posting a video about the engine, do you know there are 6 different engines for the F-16? Not just block 50 but F-16 in general.

F100-PW-200 (block 1 to 25), F100-PW-220 (block 1 to 25, 32 and 42), F100-PW-229 (block 42 and 52, 52+), F110-GW-100 (30, 40) F110-GE-129 (50, 50+), F110-GE-132 (60). They all have subversion also, as an example last time I check, the F110 has the 100, 100B, 100C and 100D. How many F110-GE-129 subversion are there? I don't know, does anyone know?

 

Avionics power have several versions; Some with MMC, Some with MMC and EGI

 

There are several OFP and they all bring different capabilities. M3.4+, M4.2+, M4.3+, M5.1+

So unless you have specific dates for when those OFP became operational ( and their capabilities) maybe hold off on that:" it should carry this weapons or this pod". A youtube video can't tell you what software that specific F-16 is using.

 

Pods have different software, and example sniper S1.8 or S3.5. Seeing a video of the Sniper pods does not tell you it capabilities unless you know the specific software used on the video. Same goes to all other pods (LITENING, HTS, etc.)

 

So, more than likely (if ED stays on this specific version) this module wont match what most of us think we know of the F-16.

Same conversation keep happening.