Kokomakak Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Back to the Mirage F-1! Dear AvioDev, I would literally go crazy if the Mirage F-1 is on your To-Do list. If it's scheduled for release sometime this year AvioDev will be my prrsonal hero... If you guys release the Mirage F-1 you will have yourself a life long customer who is 1000% loyal (I will buy each and every single AvioDev future releases - even a simulated flying turd!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivoune Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Can't wait! :) Edited January 15, 2015 by Vivoune [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emg Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartuil Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) If you Do a F1 you have my loyalty 100%!! I buy any module you sell. Edited January 15, 2015 by dartuil i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguara5 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Please the legacy C version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratos Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I will prefer one of the latest variants capable of deploying PGM, in fact I will love the CT french Armeé de l'Air variant. I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartuil Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Mirage F1 Hello I would like some word on Mirage F1. I dont ask where is the work. I more want to know which variant you finally want to do. Thank you. :joystick: i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanOscar Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 We are still gathering documentation and info, to study the project, but most probably EE variant. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dioxin Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I hear Morocco are due to get rid of their Mirage F1's shortly, under a replacement agreement with the US. What better source for the info you need - bet they are going cheap! :D Kneeboard Guides Rig: Asus B650-GAMING PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; SN-1 Pedals; VR = Pico 4 over VD Wireless + Index; Point Control v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) We are still gathering documentation and info, to study the project, but most probably EE variant. Please make a version with standard features to simulate the most exported version of the F-1E. I don't know the extras of EE version, this is only the Spanish version right? Do you think we can simulate Iran-Irak air war with the F-1EE version? Edited December 27, 2015 by pepin1234 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartuil Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 We are still gathering documentation and info, to study the project, but most probably EE variant. Thank you buddy. i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 As far as I know, the mirage F-1 is a french made aircraft used by the french air-force and many other air-forces. So, why doing an export version only ? It's cool for the Spanish guys, they get their specific plane. I'm french so you might think french bias(which is true :lol:) Let me reformulate : We are getting an F-18, which is an american plane, so it would be weird to have a CF-188A(Canada) or a AF-18A(Australia) or a EF-18A(Spain) and no F/A-18A(US Navy). So my point is : It's totally ok if you do a F-1EE but give us a F-1A, C or CT which were used by french air-force. No hate here only talk. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) As far as I know, the mirage F-1 is a french made aircraft used by the french air-force and many other air-forces. So, why doing an export version only ? It's cool for the Spanish guys, they get their specific plane. I'm french so you might think french bias(which is true :lol:) Let me reformulate : We are getting an F-18, which is an american plane, so it would be weird to have a CF-188A(Canada) or a AF-18A(Australia) or a EF-18A(Spain) and no F/A-18A(US Navy). So my point is : It's totally ok if you do a F-1EE but give us a F-1A, C or CT which were used by french air-force. No hate here only talk. You are misunderstanding the idea. The USAF is an active user of their hardware. So that mean whatever American fighter you make surely have some real combat history. In the case of the Mirage F-1 we can simulate a pass war easily with a version with avionic similar to the real F-1 active combat version. (Iraq F-1E) If one version never have taken part in a conflict and never have been wide produced Version as make of this a standar version in DCS then how you can simulate a conflict with a non real combat experience version Iraq is the most important user of the F-1 after France, also the rest of exported F-1 are similar to E version. If the EE version is avionic improved (radar, systems) how you gone limit this capability in the editor? Edited December 28, 2015 by pepin1234 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartuil Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Im french like you and I dont care which country used the variant. All I care is to have the most advanced F1 possible. i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I hope ED take count on this. First should have priority the Wide produced and active combat versions than an Advanced and poor produced version. Spain had the F-1E too, so should not be a problem. A sub version like the EE could be an add-on for the main version. A good example is what is going to do ED with the L-39C and L-39ZA [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) I do not agree with your point , I think the priority is to get the plane version used by the air-force from the manufacturer country. That only engage me and I would understand if the devs want to do the plane their country used. Edited December 28, 2015 by myHelljumper Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I do not agree with your point , I think the priority is to get the plane version used by the air-force from the manufacturer country. What I understand about that you said. We should fallow our own national interest first and then the international community wishes for a high simulation. Pathetic... 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartuil Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 To be honest Both have AG and AA which one is the most advanced I dont know. i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 What I understand about that you said. We should fallow our own national interest first and then the international community wishes for a high simulation. Pathetic... Am I pathetic ? :noexpression: I will take another example : the F-5 The US used the F-5E AFAIK but more modern export version exist like F-5S, EM, T or TIII. I would not understand if we get only the F-5S and not the F-5E because it can shoot AMRAAM and the american one can't. AGAIN no hate juste an exchange of opinions. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 To be honest Both have AG and AA which one is the most advanced I dont know. Will be nice know the features of the F-1EE radar [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Hrothgar Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 My main concern in aircraft models is to get something characteristic of those used in actual or potential wars. For me, the Mirage F.1 will be a stand in for the Iraqi EQ models from the 1980's Iran-Iraq War and 1990/91 Gulf War. To that end, I want a Mirage F.1E with Super 530F's and AM-39 Exocets, beyond that I don't much care which specific national variant is made. I only ask for something similar to those that saw significant combat. On a related note, did the F.1EE the Spanish bought have AM-39's? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 It I s exactly what I think too. If they want to make the EE Spanish version is OK, but first should be the real combat action F-1E. Aviodev is doing two versions of C-101, perfect. Will be great they do the same with F-1E/EE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 As far as I know, all export versions of Mirage F-1 have an additional letter in their variant name. So there is no Iraqi F-1E, that is F-1EQ, like Spanish ones are F-1EE. Also, I think they all differ in one way or other. Personally, if possible I would want F-1C, F-1EE and F-1M. But I guess first thing first, will be a single variant and in that case I believe E is the best compromise, being more multirole-ish. Aviodev being a Spanish company, it is understandable they'd prefer EE, and chances of them getting access to an old airframe or may be at least former pilots in their country is higher anyway, so it is better for us end consumers they prefer to do a EE in this sense, if we want to get it as accurate as possible. As for earlier discussion on Mirage F-1 and BVR (I think it was on MiG-23 thread), F-1C versions including non upgareded ones should be BVR capable, so is the F-1M. I'd wager MiG-23 of comparable era would be somewhat better in BVR than Mirage F-1 but, fighter versions of Mirage did have the ability to lob missiles further than eye can see, even if just barely so. That is why ideally it would be best to get multiple variants of the aircraft, one stiker that would serve as a fighter in a pinch, and one dedicated fighter, that may also do some limited attack in a pinch. So I hope Aviodev can do a F-1CE + F-1EE package. Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BButcher94 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 The way I see it, Aviodev want to make the most true to life F-1 that they can and I would assume that they are more likely to have access to a F-1EE than an Iraqi variant. I'd rather they make a highly detailed F-1EE than a Iraqi one with some guesswork since they don't have access to that aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelthunder Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I can't wait to add a Mirage F1 in my DCS garage.I'll probably get this Mirage version first,unless someone else makes a Mirage III or earlier Dassault fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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