BitMaster Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) well if you're not gaming or anything, you can program the AMD Tool to Drop Voltage and re-enable core parking. That way it's not a 24/7 overclock and you're not burning up the pathways in the chip with 1500mv 24/7, but only when you really need it. Since DCS isnt multi-Threaded past 1 Thread for Simulation 1 for Sound, then you could prolly get away w/ Overclocking and turning off SMT. or boosting XFR2 to 5+ Ghz on a Single core and lock DCS to that core. Sure, i am just no fan of such settings. it's gotta do everything at that clock i dial in, either that or downclock until stable. You say 2 threads....ok....I say many of my 6 cores are often pretty stressed in dcs these days. I would try to get an even+all-core_OC at 4.5. With all my cores at 4.7 i start to see no more advantage going 5g or more. 4.7 and up is pretty much tilting the 1080ti. with 4.3 the ti is often only 80% Edited April 20, 2018 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 So the reviews I saw today got to ~4.2-4.3max GHz with all cores, which means for a single threaded app an OC is prolly counterproductive. For multi-threaded apps, oh boy, it kills the 8700k @ 4.9G according to one review by 2 fps. Ok, some or many 8700k's do 5G..but hey... those two chips are on par now. Looking at the delid-relid liquid metal fuzz a 8700k has, I'd get me 2700er now if my Intel melted. Sell the board, take my RAM and go AMD ;) In the long run, the 2 more cores will be the winner imho. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 because Overclocking all cores removes the XFR2 for Single Thread/Single Core Boost. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Yes, any OC voided XFR ever since. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirusAM Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 well if you're not gaming or anything, you can program the AMD Tool to Drop Voltage and re-enable core parking. That way it's not a 24/7 overclock and you're not burning up the pathways in the chip with 1500mv 24/7, but only when you really need it. Since DCS isnt multi-Threaded past 1 Thread for Simulation 1 for Sound, then you could prolly get away w/ Overclocking and turning off SMT. or boosting XFR2 to 5+ Ghz on a Single core and lock DCS to that core.Could you explain how to do it?i have a ryzen 1700x and i oc it with msi motherboard software...but if for DCS it is better the way you write i would like to apply it... Also how i can check if xfr is working or not? Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A5010 utilizzando Tapatalk R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 Valve Index VPForce Rhino FFB, Virpil F-14 (VFX) Grip, Virpil Alpha Grip, Virpil CM3 Throttle + Control Panel 2, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 because Overclocking all cores removes the XFR2 for Single Thread/Single Core Boost. I have an I7 skylake machine at work and I notice how its response times are so inconsistent with 1 core load or multi cores load and tries to boost or downclock to match. My R7 has all power instantly available feels so much smoother and responsive. My R7 crushes the I7 in heavy excell calculations too (8 VS 4 cores). I will lock my 2700X (will pick it up tomorrow) at 4.15 or 4.2 GHZ on all cores and call it a day. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 for rendering movies and 3d scenes we notice the Ryzen was significantly better than the i7. our main machines are running threadripper cpus and our secondaries are running R7 - 2700X. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toutenglisse Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Thank you for the clarifications. So with all that said and using a normal water cooling setup in DCS terms(lol that's all I use my rig for) Are we talking superior performance over a 8700K? Relatively the same? Only comparaison between intel's i7 and ryzen+ I found about a flight sim (all @stock speeds) : [ATTACH]182877[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekbull Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Only comparaison between intel's i7 and ryzen+ I found about a flight sim (all @stock speeds) : [ATTACH]182877[/ATTACH] Nice find!...gives a bit of an indication. Man that old 4790K that I just recently replaced is still kicking ass. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D | ASUS Crosshair Hero X670E | 64GB G Skill Trident Z DDR5 6000 | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE| Samsung EVO Plus 6 TB M.2 PCIe SSDs | TM Hornet Stick/WinWing Hornet Throttle and MIP | VPC T-50 Stick Base | TM TPR Rudder Pedals W/Damper | Varjo Aero/Pimax Crystal VFA-25 Fist of the Fleet Carrier Strike Group One(CSG-1) Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1330 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) Hey Pilotasso, are you dropping the 2700X into your X370 board, or going with X470? I’m very interested in whether putting a 2700X into X370 will see any performance drops vs X470. Since you have the same Crosshair VI Hero as I do, I’d be interested to hear how well the 2700X runs. Do precision boost 2 and XFR2 work properly? How about memory overclocking? I haven’t been able to get to the 3200 my RAM is rated to, regardless of BIOS version. I wonder if a 2700X would help? There is only one video online that compares X370 vs X470 with Ryzen+, and it sounds like good news, but it’s only one opinion... if you could share anything you find out, I would greatly appreciate it! Edited April 21, 2018 by Sandman1330 Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Asus Crosshair VI Hero X370 / Corsair H110i / Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT / 32Gb G.Skill TridentZ 3200 / Samsung 980 Pro M.2 / Virpil Warbrd base + VFX and TM grips / Virpil CM3 Throttle / Saitek Pro Combat pedals / Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallberries Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Hey Pilotasso, are you dropping the 2700X into your X370 board, or going with X470? I’m very interested in whether putting a 2700X into X370 will see any performance drops vs X470. Since you have the same Crosshair VI Hero as I do, I’d be interested to hear how well the 2700X runs. Do precision boost 2 and XFR2 work properly? How about memory overclocking? I haven’t been able to get to the 3200 my RAM is rated to, regardless of BIOS version. I wonder if a 2700X would help? There is only one video online that compares X370 vs X470 with Ryzen+, and it sounds like good news, but it’s only one opinion... if you could share anything you find out, I would greatly appreciate it! I have the same questions...I did get my RAM to 3200 but not on my first try, and being a noob OC'er faffing about, I have no idea why it worked the 2nd time...but yeah, i'm curious if a 2700x would be a worthy upgrade or not. My 1700x gives me a 3.9 OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Hey Pilotasso, are you dropping the 2700X into your X370 board, or going with X470? I’m very interested in whether putting a 2700X into X370 will see any performance drops vs X470. Since you have the same Crosshair VI Hero as I do, I’d be interested to hear how well the 2700X runs. Do precision boost 2 and XFR2 work properly? How about memory overclocking? I haven’t been able to get to the 3200 my RAM is rated to, regardless of BIOS version. I wonder if a 2700X would help? There is only one video online that compares X370 vs X470 with Ryzen+, and it sounds like good news, but it’s only one opinion... if you could share anything you find out, I would greatly appreciate it! Im keeping my board. Reports are in that changing the boards does nearly nothing for you unless you want the new storage caching system (basically merges your SSD's and HDD's into one virtual unit, similar what Intel does for optane). people are running 3466MHZ RAM where before they would 3200, just by changing the CPU alone but I am using 4 sticks instead of 2 so well see how it pans out. YSMXbbw2B8Y [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1330 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Im keeping my board. Reports are in that changing the boards does nearly nothing for you unless you want the new storage caching system (basically merges your SSD's and HDD's into one virtual unit, similar what Intel does for optane). people are running 3466MHZ RAM where before they would 3200, just by changing the CPU alone but I am using 4 sticks instead of 2 so well see how it pans out. YSMXbbw2B8Y Awesome. That’s the one video I was alluding to that implies X370 works well. Keep us updated on your experience! Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Asus Crosshair VI Hero X370 / Corsair H110i / Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT / 32Gb G.Skill TridentZ 3200 / Samsung 980 Pro M.2 / Virpil Warbrd base + VFX and TM grips / Virpil CM3 Throttle / Saitek Pro Combat pedals / Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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