SharpeXB Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Well maybe the forums were boring and weren't worth reading before because there are too may impatient, close minded, nay sayers harping about feature requests they want right this instant. It’s funny that you post this rather outlandish and not very realistic idea and then get all defensive that everyone doesn’t immediately agree with it. :lol: i9-13900K @ 6.2GHz oc | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | 24GB GeForce RTX 4090 | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 This device would not work for me, I refuse to blow into ANYTHING unless you've got a warrant. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 If they're going to integrate a breathalyser into DCS world, it should be on the Forum & you should have to pass before starting a new thread... Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I give up. System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowRider88 Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 It’s funny that you post this rather outlandish and not very realistic idea and then get all defensive that everyone doesn’t immediately agree with it. :lol: If no one agrees with this idea then that is fine. Then this is not the right audience for it. What is even funner is someone who wastes over 3 years of his life bickering with others on useless theoretical threads, using limited proof, and getting shot down by everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowRider88 Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 This device would not work for me, I refuse to blow into ANYTHING unless you've got a warrant. Good for you, no one is pointing a gun to your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowRider88 Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 If they're going to integrate a breathalyser into DCS world, it should be on the Forum & you should have to pass before starting a new thread... If you don't like it, then don't read it. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 You need to work on your comebacks. They lack... pizazz. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowRider88 Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 You need to work on your comebacks. They lack... pizazz. I couldn't be bothered to learn you lame wannabe slang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpeXB Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 What is even funner is someone who wastes over 3 years of his life bickering with others on useless theoretical threads, using limited proof, and getting shot down by everyone else. Welcome to DCS Forums...:smilewink: i9-13900K @ 6.2GHz oc | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | 24GB GeForce RTX 4090 | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcrusty Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Hey LowRider88, Sometimes I can't figure out if people are coming up with stuff for real or trolling. I assume you're for real. Out of all things you can do to improve immersion why dwell on breathing to simulate something you really can't simulate. You said you fly SP so you focus on dogfighting AI? Is this what you do most? I do couple of g warmup turns before any expected turning and burning. (not sure if DCS simulates g tolerance or not;)) I don't know what kind of sim hardware you use to increase immersion but for me the biggest jump was VR. In spite of narrow FOV, shimmering (I have to run it with PD set to 2.0) it was and still is mind blowing. You can't compare TIR to 3D. So... it's all visual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowRider88 Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 Hey LowRider88, Sometimes I can't figure out if people are coming up with stuff for real or trolling. I assume you're for real. Out of all things you can do to improve immersion why dwell on breathing to simulate something you really can't simulate. You said you fly SP so you focus on dogfighting AI? Is this what you do most? I do couple of g warmup turns before any expected turning and burning. (not sure if DCS simulates g tolerance or not;)) I don't know what kind of sim hardware you use to increase immersion but for me the biggest jump was VR. In spite of narrow FOV, shimmering (I have to run it with PD set to 2.0) it was and still is mind blowing. You can't compare TIR to 3D. So... it's all visual. Hey Gripes323, Thanks for your feedback. No, I wouldn't waste time here trolling. That's spare time better spent enjoying DCS. I was being serious, but apparently I was the only one, as this is not the right audience for out of box ideas, or innovation of any kind. I am all for new ideas to improve immersion, and this was just one I thought I could share. The main point was, currently you can black out in the game and there is no way to control it, except to relax your maneuver to wait to wake up. But you are correct, I don't need to dwell on this any further. If it reaches the perhaps tiny percentage of like minded people on this forum open to new ideas, and if it ever becomes a thing, or helps to spawn new ideas, then the thread will have served its purpose. I prefer not to use VR at the moment, because so far there is no evidence that it does not cause long term vision problems, as the tech is still relatively new. So I stick to TrackIR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Vision problems? Unless you're spending 8-10 hours a day with it, that shouldn't really be a concern. Also, I don't see how it would be bad for eyes considering they're focused on infinity just like normal (two images, that's how VR gets its 3d effect and the whole basis of why it functions at all). The only remaining issue is the ebil ''blue light'' which is, based on my reading, a gimmick people use to charge you for a filter. The ''danger'' is grossly exaggerated, and not worth further consideration imo (source, my efforts to find out if a blue light filter was worth it on my VR lenses, after about thirty minutes I determined it's a gimmick to charge me $40 or whatever it was). Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpeXB Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Vision problems? Unless you're spending 8-10 hours a day with it, that shouldn't really be a concern. There is this. But the subject in this case was a developer with thousands of hours in the headset https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/311639-developer-vr-headset-eyesight i9-13900K @ 6.2GHz oc | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | 24GB GeForce RTX 4090 | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drPhibes Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 This device would not work for me, I refuse to blow into ANYTHING unless you've got a warrant. That sounds like an excuse I'd use if someone asked me to help out with beach balls, ballons and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drPhibes Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 And regarding the OP's suggestion: unless high G straining can be measured in blood alcohol content, a brethalyzer is the wrong tool. Tight pants covered with strain gauges will do a much better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisedByWolves Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Please stop. Get some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al531246 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Unless the mask is actually hooked up to a diluted oxygen tank that has a positive pressure you would literally die. Rebreating your own exhaled breath will give you hypercapnia. Intel i5-8600k | EVGA RTX 3070 | Windows 10 | 32GB RAM @3600 MHz | 500 GB Samsung 850 SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowRider88 Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 Unless the mask is actually hooked up to a diluted oxygen tank that has a positive pressure you would literally die. Rebreating your own exhaled breath will give you hypercapnia. Are you suggesting it is possible to rebreath from a breathalyzer, or spirometer? If so, I was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Vision problems? Unless you're spending 8-10 hours a day with it, that shouldn't really be a concern. Also, I don't see how it would be bad for eyes considering they're focused on infinity just like normal (two images, that's how VR gets its 3d effect and the whole basis of why it functions at all). It seems like VR headsets are focused at about 6.5ft, not infinity. Virtual-reality headsets tackle this problem by generally setting the focus distance in VR land to the equivalent of about 6.5 feet away from your eyes, approximating the gap between your couch and your television. https://www.popsci.com/vr-has-hard-time-showing-you-things-up-close-but-oculus-might-have-fix/ DCS VoiceAttack Profiles | My Mods and Utilities on ED User Files | DiCE: DCS Integrated Countermeasure Editor DCS Update Witching Utility | DCS-ExportScripts for Stream Deck Community Github Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Unless the mask is actually hooked up to a diluted oxygen tank that has a positive pressure you would literally die. Rebreating your own exhaled breath will give you hypercapnia. Yeah, you missed the part where he just wants to blow into a tube, but not just any tube will do. It needs to check his BAC and simulate he's not flying inebriated. Or something. @Bailey I stand corrected Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowRider88 Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 Yeah, you missed the part where he just wants to blow into a tube, but not just any tube will do. It needs to check his BAC and simulate he's not flying inebriated. Or something. @Bailey I stand corrected Wow. You still here? Don’t you have anything more meaningful in your life? Every time you open your mouth you spew stench. It’s like you fart with your mouth. So repulsive you are, you are among the few dorks here who are the reason I hesitated so long to take part in this forum, and why I also have lost interested in it. You should keep in mind not everyone in the forum is a loser pay for free multiplayer alumni who has no way of self esteem but to crap on strangers. Some of us are actually in the business world and are accustomed to mature conversation. You can pat your self on the back and take it as a victory that I leave. Fortunately for me I have other interests in life. But that is just sad, that you need this as an ego boost, because you have nothing else in your life. You talk like you think you can fool everyone into thinking you are from the street, when we all know you are a sim nerd like everyone else. 032186? As in 1986/03/21? Why, that would make you, 34?! Yeesh, dude, I stopped talking like a wannabe try hard when I turned 19. You are way behind in life. I suggest you take a personality course, because the longer you stay this way the more nothing will change for you. No where did I specify a particular tube. So stop putting words in my mouth. Your farty words belong in your own farty mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 #1 He said fart. Haha #2 We're typing, so I never opened my mouth except to laugh at your ridiculous posts #3 I've been here for years, and this was one of the worst... uh... whatever that was. Retort? Anyway, worst retort I've ever seen that wasn't in broken English. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I prefer not to use VR at the moment, because so far there is no evidence that it does not cause long term vision problems, as the tech is still relatively new. So I stick to TrackIR. I would imagine blowing into a tube and trying to G-strain sitting at your desk would cause far more health problems than VR. System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 No where did I specify a particular tube. Uuuuh, yes you did. You said breathalyzer tube. That's pretty specific. And "farty mouth"??? Really? System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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