dresoccer4 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 no spoilers here: just wanted to see if anyone has successfully complete mission 6, or even taken off for that matter? have tried 3 times now but having some issues... Acer Predator Triton 700 || i7-7700HQ || 512GB SSD || 32GB RAM || GTX1080 Max-Q || FFB II and Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle || All DCS Modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache600 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 bug issues? feel free to use "Wrap " to hide whatever you don't want someone to accidentally stumble upon. (you might have to use the "go advanced" option when replying to get that feature. it's the one all the way on the right if you're not familiar) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The Museum Relic Campaign: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164322 Community Missions (SP & MP) --> https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=205546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dresoccer4 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 bug issues? feel free to use "Wrap " to hide whatever you don't want someone to accidentally stumble upon. (you might have to use the "go advanced" option when replying to get that feature. it's the one all the way on the right if you're not familiar) not sure if bug or intended, hope you can help me out. 1st takeoff attempt: taxiiing around debris, found a clear path to runway crossroads, then BAM my front wheel acts as if it's hit something and snaps off. hmm 2nd takeoff attempt: go a different way this time, lineup on runway 20 and begin my roll. take off successfully, then about 20' off the runway, and 175mph: BAM, hit with an R-60 from an SU-25T. dead 3rd attempt: i get about 500 feet up this time before the R-60 gets me 4th attempt: im eager to avoid that R-60 this time, i stay super super low at the treetops and bug out down the coast as quickly as i can, however i can tell i'm getting chased by some su-25's. the three bogeys spawn in front of me and i get the command to take them out, i pull up and begin my attack, then BAM, there comes the R-60 not sure how i'm supposed to battle against A2A missiles in my F-86. is this intended and i just need more practice? or is something else supposed to be happening? still, i'm loving this campaign. best time i've had in DCS so far. the beginning of mission 6 scared the begeezus out of me :thumbup: Acer Predator Triton 700 || i7-7700HQ || 512GB SSD || 32GB RAM || GTX1080 Max-Q || FFB II and Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle || All DCS Modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache600 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Well, runway 20 is the correct runway to pick. So you've got that correct. As for the R-60, yeah that's not supposed to be happening. I wonder if one of the updates to the game has made the SU-25's more aggressive since I have not had that issue myself. One possible thing you could try (and not sure if this will help) is try taxing to runway 20 a little slower. Once you start moving your aircraft, you trigger the overhead SU-25's to retreat. But if they are currently wrapped up in some sort of attack, they may not retreat until they are finished with what they're doing. And then after you take off, you're visible to them, so they might decide to take a shot at you then also. Please let me know if this persists. Even if it doesn't for you, I'll tweak the mission so it doesn't give others an issue. Thanks for reporting this! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The Museum Relic Campaign: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164322 Community Missions (SP & MP) --> https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=205546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dresoccer4 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) One possible thing you could try (and not sure if this will help) is try taxing to runway 20 a little slower. i'll give that a try and report back edit: tried again. and once again i hit something invisible which severely damaged my landing gear. i managed to take off and ran from the su-25's. but then realized you can't dogfight with damaged landing gear :p i've attached a track, just fast forward until i start rolling then it happenswheelpop.trk Edited August 11, 2016 by dresoccer4 Acer Predator Triton 700 || i7-7700HQ || 512GB SSD || 32GB RAM || GTX1080 Max-Q || FFB II and Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle || All DCS Modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dresoccer4 Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 finally completed the mission. boy was this one tough. Acer Predator Triton 700 || i7-7700HQ || 512GB SSD || 32GB RAM || GTX1080 Max-Q || FFB II and Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle || All DCS Modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache600 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Glad you got past it! And thanks for sending me that track of yours. After watching it, I think I see what you did wrong (well, not really wrong ... but you didn't do it the easy way. haha) The guy on the radio states that that you should taxi to where the two runways intersect and use runway 20 to depart, and that the normal route you use is blocked by debris (that's kinda the way you went, was the normal route) Attached in the second spoiler is an overhead picture of the suggested taxi route. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The Museum Relic Campaign: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164322 Community Missions (SP & MP) --> https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=205546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dresoccer4 Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 Glad you got past it! And thanks for sending me that track of yours. After watching it, I think I see what you did wrong (well, not really wrong ... but you didn't do it the easy way. haha) The guy on the radio states that that you should taxi to where the two runways intersect and use runway 20 to depart, and that the normal route you use is blocked by debris (that's kinda the way you went, was the normal route) Attached in the second spoiler is an overhead picture of the suggested taxi route. ah, always taking the road less traveled ;) that taxi map is great, it's what i kind of thought i was supposed to do but never did. my last successful run i just literally went through the grass to B-line it out of there. seemed to work :music_whistling: Acer Predator Triton 700 || i7-7700HQ || 512GB SSD || 32GB RAM || GTX1080 Max-Q || FFB II and Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle || All DCS Modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giei Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I had a successfully takeoff but now I don't know what to do. I chase a couple of su over mountains. (one down and one kills me) Is it correct? I'm flying since 1988 (Flight Simulator 3.0) :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache600 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Here's some hints for ya! the SU-25's that you're chasing, are they the ones that are over the airport when you depart? If so, those are not your targets. Listen for the radio message shortly after departure. It advises you of a new formation of enemy aircraft coming in at low level from the Gudauta area. Fly low and down the shoreline and you should pick them up. There is radio comms that come up once you start getting close to them (advising you of your distance to the targets). They'll also pop flares when you're close so you can more easily identify them. I strongly advise checking your six after the merge, one of them can sneak up behind you if you fixate to much on chasing a target. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The Museum Relic Campaign: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164322 Community Missions (SP & MP) --> https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=205546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giei Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Here's some hints for ya! Understand :thumbup: I'm flying since 1988 (Flight Simulator 3.0) :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 I know this is a bit of necroposting, however issue with R-60's is still there in a latest build. Using tactics you can get away from the airfield, but there's no way to survive 3x Su-25s chasing with R-60's after you. When I few with MiG after campaign came out it was no issue. Now re-flying with F-86 and there we go... AMD R7 5800X3D | Aorus B550 Pro | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 4080 | VKB MGC Pro Gunfighter Mk III + Thustmaster TWCS + VKB T-Rudder Mk4 | HP Reverb G2 FC3 | A-10C II | Ка-50 | P-51 | UH-1 | Ми-8 | F-86F | МиГ-21 | FW-190 | МиГ-15 | Л-39 | Bf 109 | M-2000C | F-5 | Spitfire | AJS-37 | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Як-52 | F-14 | F-16 | Ми-24 | AH-64 NTTR | Normandy | Gulf | Syria | Supercarrier | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moafuleum Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 same for me, two miles apart from the merge i see an r-60 coming off the rails and 4 seconds later i look like the A-10s on the ramp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache600 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Thanks for the reports guys. I'll look into this. The SU-25's in the past weren't aggressive, just defensive. Wonder if something changed somehow. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The Museum Relic Campaign: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164322 Community Missions (SP & MP) --> https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=205546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifofum Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Hey Apache...I've recently experienced a much more enthusiastic response than in previous DCS versions with respect to the default "CAS" tasking assigned in the mission editor when you drop a unit in. I just experienced a similar issue with one of my missions, I'd recommend checking if that is present and if it is, removing it if possible and replacing it with specific tasking and ROE -> only designated. THE GEORGIAN WAR - OFFICIAL F-15C DLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache600 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 "enthusiastic" Haha, thanks for the heads up feefifofum. I'll definitely look into that. Wouldn't "only designated" also steer them to shoot at the player though? Or do they do it with a little less hatred? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The Museum Relic Campaign: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164322 Community Missions (SP & MP) --> https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=205546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifofum Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Only if they have a general search-then-engage-in-zone tasking or the default CAS tasking; if you direct them to attack specific targets and set the ROE as only designated, they should ignore the player aircraft and only evade fire. Another alternative would be to set their ROE as "return fire" at which point they would attack the player once engaged. THE GEORGIAN WAR - OFFICIAL F-15C DLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic_dragon Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I think that ROE is generally bugged now. In many tries flights with ROE set to Only Designated would attack whatever was in their way (for CAP) and some static containers 20 miles away from the target... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I think that ROE is generally bugged now. In many tries flights with ROE set to Only Designated would attack whatever was in their way (for CAP) and some static containers 20 miles away from the target... I agree. I've been fine-tuning one of my sandbox mission to make a pair of Apaches attack particular three groups. Took about 2.5 hours of trial and error :( AMD R7 5800X3D | Aorus B550 Pro | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 4080 | VKB MGC Pro Gunfighter Mk III + Thustmaster TWCS + VKB T-Rudder Mk4 | HP Reverb G2 FC3 | A-10C II | Ка-50 | P-51 | UH-1 | Ми-8 | F-86F | МиГ-21 | FW-190 | МиГ-15 | Л-39 | Bf 109 | M-2000C | F-5 | Spitfire | AJS-37 | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Як-52 | F-14 | F-16 | Ми-24 | AH-64 NTTR | Normandy | Gulf | Syria | Supercarrier | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beikul Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I know this is a bit of necroposting, however issue with R-60's is still there in a latest build. Using tactics you can get away from the airfield, but there's no way to survive 3x Su-25s chasing with R-60's after you. Just tried this mission today and found the same thing (latest open beta). After repeatedly getting shot down by an R-60 I had to switch on 'invulnerability' to get past it. Other than that, really enjoying the campaign so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patersonski Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 You can still complete the mission even with the R-60s: Before you hit the three incoming su-25s, head inland over the mountains and then circle around behind them. It took me four cracks at it but on the successful one I got a few shots into one aircraft, which subsequently crashed, and then avoided the other two for a few minutes, which then bugged out for home, allowing me to complete the mission. Rig: i7-6850K, Sapphire 6900XT, 32GB RAM, Asus X99-Pro board. Gear: VPC WarBRD/MongoosT-50 Stick, VPC MongoosMT-50 Throttle, VKB T-Rudders Mk.IV Pedals, HP Reverb G2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache600 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Ugh, none of this was ever intended. I'm sorry. They shouldn't be as aggressive as they are. I'm currently working on bringing the campaign up to v2.5 standards, and making sure this isn't an issue there. I should get a fix for this 1.5 version too, but gotta focus on 2.5 first. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The Museum Relic Campaign: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164322 Community Missions (SP & MP) --> https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=205546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache600 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Alright, so I test flew this mission a number of times today ... and everything is working as I wanted it too. Granted, the F-86 version of this mission IS a bit more difficult than the MiG-15 version. Current DCS version during my testing was v1.5.7.11476 I flew this mission 8 times with the F-86. Here's my results (and yes, I died a lot, but it was for testing purposes ... :) or at least that's what I'm telling myself ) 1: Success - Flew like I did when I first built this mission. Offset myself from the shoreline (flew over sea) and attacked SU-25's from their flank. 2: Died - Flew straight at the formation, Saw R-60 come straight at me when range was close. 3: Died - Flew straight at the formation, no R-60 this time. Got shot down by an R-60 later as I failed to check my six often enough 4: Died - Tried to take off from ramp (to quicken the testing) got shot down by R-73 5: Died - See # 4 6: Died - See # 3 7: Died - See # 4 again 8: Success - Flew straight at the formation, no R-60 shot at me. Merged and fought while continually checking my six. Splashed all 3. With the MiG-15 I flew 3 times. 1: Success - Flew straight at formation, no Aim-9. Shot 2 A-10's down, 1 hit the hills. 2: Died - Got shot down by ... something ... taking off from the Ramp of the airport (just like with the F-86 version) 3: Died - After shooting down 1 A-10, I let the other 2 get on my six. Wanted to see if they'd fire an Aim-9 at me. They didn't. Instead, I got BRRRRRRRRRRRRT to death. (ok it was more like just a quick BRT, haha .... poor little MiG-15) - Apache600 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The Museum Relic Campaign: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164322 Community Missions (SP & MP) --> https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=205546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mblackham Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I just cannot complete this mission. Got to agree with previous posts. 3x SU 25s firing 60s is OP on the 86. Loving the campaign other than that though. Excellent work Apache! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache600 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Sorry to hear it's giving you a hard time. This issue has been addressed for the 2.5 version (when that releases). Just so you don't get hung up on the mission, you can always use that radio command in the first 30 seconds of mission start to skip it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The Museum Relic Campaign: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164322 Community Missions (SP & MP) --> https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=205546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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