Steinsch Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 I made this video to compare the CASE I landing pattern between all four DCS naval jets (Hornet, Tomcat, Harrier and Flanker.) I'm not an expert with any of them, but I like landing them right. Regarding landing the F-14, would the more experienced pilots among you let me know how it could be improved? Many thanks! Steinsch Flying Virtual F-15s since 1989 YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/CommanderSteinsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory205 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 I didn't watch the others, but the Tomcat pattern is pretty damned good. Minor nits is that you could enter the break a bit faster, say 350-400KIAS and use a little more G, like around 4, wings to auto at 280, Gear at 250, flaps at 200. All of that will slow down the process as those event triggers will happen more slowly. You did a nice, level break, might have dumped the nose a little too aggressively to get down to 600 feet, continuing upwind a bit will give you more time to do that at a more controlled pace. I thought that the approach turn and groove AOA control was excellent, and you controlled the rate of descent during from the 180 to the 90 very well. You have it down, it's just a matter of tweaking the power to control the rate of descent. One of the best approaches I've seen in terms of AOA control Well done. Viewpoints are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Very nice, but... did you just land on the kuznetsov? That gives a -5 points penalty, haha. Seriously though, very nice landings. As for the Flanker, I don't think the russians do a case 1 pattern, iirc they have a regular pattern (much like on a regular airpot) at 1000m, and then fly the base leg towards the initial (your rtrn waypoint before it switches to lndg) and fly the entire glide path, but someone correct me if I am wrong please. Also very high praise from the man himself, in case you did not know, Victory is a former (rl) Tomcat pilot. Well done! Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steinsch Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 Very nice, but... did you just land on the kuznetsov? That gives a -5 points penalty, haha. Seriously though, very nice landings. As for the Flanker, I don't think the russians do a case 1 pattern, iirc they have a regular pattern (much like on a regular airpot) at 1000m, and then fly the base leg towards the initial (your rtrn waypoint before it switches to lndg) and fly the entire glide path, but someone correct me if I am wrong please. Also very high praise from the man himself, in case you did not know, Victory is a former (rl) Tomcat pilot. Well done! Don't diss the Kuz! It's a hell of a ship, always on fire! :megalol: Thank you. Yes, it's the kind of information I'd give a kidney for. How do Russians actually land their birds? We've all been trying to wrap our heads around their procedure in the Su-33 sub forum. Online videos don't show much. Sigh... Steinsch Flying Virtual F-15s since 1989 YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/CommanderSteinsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steinsch Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 I didn't watch the others, but the Tomcat pattern is pretty damned good. Minor nits is that you could enter the break a bit faster, say 350-400KIAS and use a little more G, like around 4, wings to auto at 280, Gear at 250, flaps at 200. All of that will slow down the process as those event triggers will happen more slowly. You did a nice, level break, might have dumped the nose a little too aggressively to get down to 600 feet, continuing upwind a bit will give you more time to do that at a more controlled pace. I thought that the approach turn and groove AOA control was excellent, and you controlled the rate of descent during from the 180 to the 90 very well. You have it down, it's just a matter of tweaking the power to control the rate of descent. One of the best approaches I've seen in terms of AOA control Well done. Thank you so much for the feedback. Now it's just a matter of practicing to get it more or less right consistently. :) Is increasing the bank angle actually the right thing to do to counter the extra lift generated by the wings moved forward and the flaps to stay level in the break? Steinsch Flying Virtual F-15s since 1989 YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/CommanderSteinsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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