GTX1070 (ten-seventy) who's buying it?

http://www.pcgamer.com/geforce-gtx-1070-performance-preview/?utm_content=bufferb75bb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamer

I realise there's a thread related to the 1080, however, much was the case with the 970 (memory allocation aside), the 1070 may very well be the more interesting of the new cards, when price-point is considered. The aggregate benchmark above doesn't necessarily translate to comparable DCS performance, but it suggests a substantial improvement over the card it is directly replacing.

In fact, I'm curious to hear what 970 users think about the 1080p performance increase in this benchmark - didn't expect the gains to be so great at 1080p. Those using a single 970 might get something out of upgrading to a 1070, in EDGE. Having said that, most 970 owners are running high+ graphics settings in-game, and perhaps are more hampered by CPU performance.

Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised by the relatively small performance contrast between the 1080 and 1070, (in this early benchmark at least) and thought it was worth a discussion. How does this all stack up with ATI's 2016 plans?

I'm seriously thinking about VR later this year, i think this card will offer the best price/performance ratio, compare to a 1080.... anyway, i'm a geek, and it's on my "to buy" list :D

Referring specifically to DCS: I'm using a Radeon R9 290 (slightly slower than a GTX 970) and get 60 to 150 fps at 1920x1200 resolution (16:10) at reasonable levels of detail. Unless moving to either 4k or VR, I'm not sure if you will get much value for money given that the 970 is faster than any card out when DCS was released.

In general, I'm interested in the 1070 but will wait for AMD's new Polaris architecture to be released so I can both see what it has to offer and take advantage of the price drops. Interestingly the new NVIDIA architecture does not implement the DX12 'killer' feature: Asynchronous Compute whereas AMD's Polaris will. (Interestingly most of the current generation of AMD GPUs already do that). I think NVIDIA assumed that since Windows 10/DX12 isn't ubiquitous enough yet for developers to rely on, they can get by without implementing it in hardware yet.

Referring specifically to DCS: I'm using a Radeon R9 290 (slightly slower than a GTX 970) and get 60 to 150 fps at 1920x1200 resolution (16:10) at reasonable levels of detail. Unless moving to either 4k or VR, I'm not sure if you will get much value for money given that the 970 is faster than any card out when DCS was released.

 

In general, I'm interested in the 1070 but will wait for AMD's new Polaris architecture to be released so I can both see what it has to offer and take advantage of the price drops. Interestingly the new NVIDIA architecture does not implement the DX12 'killer' feature: Asynchronous Compute whereas AMD's Polaris will. (Interestingly most of the current generation of AMD GPUs already do that). I think NVIDIA assumed that since Windows 10/DX12 isn't ubiquitous enough yet for developers to rely on, they can get by without implementing it in hardware yet.

About the performance in DCS World, my current GTX 970, coupled with an I5 4690K @4.5ghz + 16gb RAM @ 2133mhz perform very well on my main 1920x1080 monitor, I rarely see FPS going below 60, maybe in some areas, for ex. airbase with many people's and air defence. I'm not sure if it will rise the performance on this screen,DCS is heavily based on the CPU performance, I will buy it only with VR in mind.

1070 = 980ti killer.

I'll buy a 1070 and I'll sell it for a 1080TI.

I think I'll stick with my 970, it's not like anyone will buy it if I put it on eBay.

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I think I will upgrade my computer from a 770 to a 1070. This will be my first graphics card upgrade ever. I have some questions: when reading the corresponding 1080 thread, I heard it mentioned that the initial cards are "founder editions". What exactly does this imply? Are they overpriced and/or come with teething problems? If I decide to buy now, what webshop will give me the best deals right now (US)?

Thanks for your help/advice, much appreciated.

I think I will upgrade my computer from a 770 to a 1070. This will be my first graphics card upgrade ever. I have some questions: when reading the corresponding 1080 thread, I heard it mentioned that the initial cards are "founder editions". What exactly does this imply? Are they overpriced and/or come with teething problems? If I decide to buy now, what webshop will give me the best deals right now (US)?

 

Thanks for your help/advice, much appreciated.

Nvidia decided to release their reference cards 100$ more expensive than what the after-market cards will cost and just call them "founders edition", both the 1070 and 1080 non-reference cards will be less expensive than the founders edition, also have better power management, board layout and cooling solutions.

you are probably better off waiting for a non-reference card...

also don't be fooled, so far the only card i've seen that's even remotely not reference is the asus ROG strix, and i think it just has the two power phases that aren't used on the reference boards, and some extra pins for the fancy lighting they've added... often people just add after-market coolers to reference boards...

I think I'll stick with my 970, it's not like anyone will buy it if I put it on eBay.

 

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Me too - I've been unable to sell my GTX560Ti and GTX760 OC, both barely used and at silly low prices for the last few months. :(

But I'm very happy with my 970, so...

If I hadn't upgraded I would definitely have gone for a 1070.

Also - I was reading today that the AMD RX480 card is going to be very good (as good as the 1070) and much cheaper, so might be time to go red again.

Nvidia decided to release their reference cards 100$ more expensive than what the after-market cards will cost and just call them "founders edition", both the 1070 and 1080 non-reference cards will be less expensive than the founders edition, also have better power management, board layout and cooling solutions.

 

you are probably better off waiting for a non-reference card...

 

also don't be fooled, so far the only card i've seen that's even remotely not reference is the asus ROG strix, and i think it just has the two power phases that aren't used on the reference boards, and some extra pins for the fancy lighting they've added... often people just add after-market coolers to reference boards...

OK, so I'll wait for a while until the "regular" cards come out. Thanks for the advice!

Me too - I've been unable to sell my GTX560Ti and GTX760 OC, both barely used and at silly low prices for the last few months. :(

 

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As seller you will obviously want to get as much as you want for your items, "silly price" is very subjective. but the only reason items don't sell on ebay is overinflated expectations. List in proper section, Start at 10$ and the auction will end near the real value pretty much guaranteed (minus the occasional NPB). Even the very old 4xx cards still end with quite a few bids most of the time - market... I just cleared out my stash of computer junk and was quite surprised how much some are willing to pay for old core2 and AM2 stuff.

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There is no mechanical wear on vidcards so whether they were very used or barely used plays no role on resale value ,to me at least.

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There is no mechanical wear on vidcards so whether they were very used or barely used plays no role on resale value ,to me at least.

I would not say no wear. Personally I would never buy a graphics card that was used for mining for example. The GPU can definatly wear down. Usually it will take quite some time for it to break, but heavily used and overclocked cards have decreased life span.

The reason I don't buy used cards is because I can't easily see how much abuse the card had.

I don't sell on ebay, though - been burned by them twice and still have an open account (complete with 'hacker' access) that I actually closed over 8 years ago. And still getting continual emails from them and having mine ignored because my account is "closed".

Trust completely evapourated.

Less than half the new price (and not the release new price, either) is what I would call 'low'. I checked what all the others were going for and offered mine for at least £10 less than the lowest.

Originally was going to get two 1080, but thinking Will stick with two 1070s to run 3 1440p 27" monitors. I just can't justify the price difference for the 1080 over the 1070 for the small amount of performance gain. Heck the 1070 is faster than the 980ti or titan x.

I agree with Agentdarnell, i was considering the 1080 at first but since the 1070 is just as powerful or even slightly stronger than the TitanX and stronger than the 980ti, plus i only run at 1080p (which i'm very happy with), i think the 1070 is the sweet spot for me. I'll prolly just wait for MSI or the other good brands to make their own versions cos i'm pretty sure they'll come up with a slightly stronger 1070 than the founders edition:)

Gonna upgrade from my trusty GTX 560 to the 1070. It sure will have made the wait worth it.

I might be in this boat too.. Dunno.. Probably will go for a RX490 instead if it ever comes. I have a strange feel that amd will be sucessful.. Probably a very unhealthy condition that i have.

1070 = 980ti killer.

 

These are stock clocks.

I want to see a 1070 beat a factory overclocked 980 ti.

These are stock clocks.

I want to see a 1070 beat a factory overclocked 980 ti.

yeah i'd like to see how a max overclocked custom pcb/bios/power supply 1070 compares to a stock 1070 too, same with the 1080s

Also. These are games that are GPU dependent. DCS is a different story entirely.

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I thought the new engine used the GPU more? I'm waiting to see how these cards run DCS. If the 1070 impresses, I'll save some money and get that one, probably the Gigabyte version..

I thought the new engine used the GPU more?

As compared to DCS 1.2, yes it does use the GPU more.

I upgraded my 750ti to a 1070 last week and its awesome! :)

I upgraded my 750ti to a 1070 last week and its awesome! :)

A jump in performance like that is always a lot of fun. :thumbup: