NeMoGas Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 So after this latest update (2.5.2.19273) I am seeing very high ram usage again. Before we got the memory manager update I was seeing anywhere from 9 to 13+ gigs of usage from the DCS process in task manager. After the update with the memory manager I was amazed to see it as low as 3.5 gigs to about 5 gigs for the DCS process in task manager. Since that update I have been watching my usage like a hawk. Now however after this last update I again am seeing 9 to 13+ gigs. So am I the only one seeing this behavior? My setting have not changed and this is in the same MP server running the same mission I always play on. In fact the mission designer has removed some units to make it run smoother and I still see this increase in memory usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMoGas Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 Also should point out I am on the Steam version so I never got the 2.5.2.19157 update. Might have been an issue in that version as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjacobsen Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I have not checked actual memory use, but when the "texture unloader" was introduced, flying the AV-8B became smooth. But with the latest update(s), for both release and open beta version, it has started stuttering again. So maybe the culprit indeed is that something has been reverted that shouldn´t. i7-10700K 3.8-5.1Ghz, 32GB RAM, RTX 4070 12GB, 1 x 1 TB SSD, 2 x 2TB SSD2 TB, 1 x 2 TBHDD 7200 RPM, Win10 Home 64bit, Meta Quest 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMoGas Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 Can anyone from ED confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjacobsen Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 After some tests, I found that the stuttering mostly occurs with the Razbam AV-8B. Other modules do not stutter very much and the sim runs rather smooth. i7-10700K 3.8-5.1Ghz, 32GB RAM, RTX 4070 12GB, 1 x 1 TB SSD, 2 x 2TB SSD2 TB, 1 x 2 TBHDD 7200 RPM, Win10 Home 64bit, Meta Quest 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMoGas Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 So I just played about 4 hours in a MP server again and still the ram usage creeps up until it is maxed out and causes the game to lock. I have been mostly flying the AV8 and the game is as smooth as MP gets up until it crashes. When I first loaded in, the server was almost full. The memore usage was about 6 gigs. Over the course of about 4 hours it slowly crept up to 13+ gigs. To me this is the same behavior exhibited before we had the memory manager or whatever ED calls it, back when we had the "memory leak." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 17, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 17, 2018 Please include the crash logs and such if it is indeed crashing on you, generally DCS zips these up for you and places them in your Saved Games folder. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMoGas Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 So every time this has happened I have had to kill the process with task manager. As you can imagine when your system reaches 15.9 gigs used of 15.9 gigs there is nothing else one can do. The PC takes 2 or 3 minutes after the crash to return to running smoothly. Unfortunately it seems to have not created a crash log for this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Customizing your Windows pagefile can help enormously with DCS, please see this post https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3548636#post3548636 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMoGas Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 My pagefile is set to 20gig initial and 20gig max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 17, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 17, 2018 So every time this has happened I have had to kill the process with task manager. As you can imagine when your system reaches 15.9 gigs used of 15.9 gigs there is nothing else one can do. The PC takes 2 or 3 minutes after the crash to return to running smoothly. Unfortunately it seems to have not created a crash log for this instance. So this is only with the Harrier? Or does it matter? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMoGas Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 That I'm not sure of. I have been mostly flying the AV8 the last few weeks, occasionally switching into an Mi8 or CA. I guess next time I play I'll fly something else and watch the usage. However my fps is quite high most the time going from about 60 to 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMoGas Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 Ok so I just got done with a 6 hour session only flying the A10C. The memory crept up to just over 12 gigs without a crash the whole 6 hours. Im not sure if the session had been longer if it would have gone higher but it did last quite a bit longer. Although the usage was still much higher than pre patch it was still acceptable. So it seems this may be an issue with the Harrier. With the Harrier after 3 or 4 hours the game would be using all available memory until crash. This was on a 40 player server that was full most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I had the Mi-8 running for 3hours+ on BlueFlag today, constant RAM usage of about 10.5GB and 21GB swap, rocksolid. Left the server shortly before it reloaded the mission. So, yeah, no issue with the Mi-8 module. Seems to be as you say, module specific and not DCS in general. I dont own the Harrier so cannot test that one for now. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMoGas Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 Ok it seems to be a Harrier issue for sure. Just played in an A10C for about 3 hours nice and smooth using about 8.5 to 9 gigs. Then I jumped into the Harrier and the usage jumped to 12 gigs with very noticeable stutter. Same airfield, same server, same session. If a mod could move this to the Harrier side of the forum that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjacobsen Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Thats also my experience. I can fly all other modules with quite smooth performance, but with the AV-8B I get some heavy stutters and often also freezes. This happens especially when the DMT is displayed. Right after EA release I remember there was an issue with all displays being rendered in the background even if not displayed - maybe this is back again. i7-10700K 3.8-5.1Ghz, 32GB RAM, RTX 4070 12GB, 1 x 1 TB SSD, 2 x 2TB SSD2 TB, 1 x 2 TBHDD 7200 RPM, Win10 Home 64bit, Meta Quest 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMoGas Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Again another mission started in 10C no issues. Then switched to AV8 and within 2 hours i get maximum ram usage and a total game lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjacobsen Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 With latest update I still see excessive RAM usage and stutters with the AV-8B. Especially o the Persian Gulf map, it stutters alot. I hope they soon start to optimise the module for better performance. i7-10700K 3.8-5.1Ghz, 32GB RAM, RTX 4070 12GB, 1 x 1 TB SSD, 2 x 2TB SSD2 TB, 1 x 2 TBHDD 7200 RPM, Win10 Home 64bit, Meta Quest 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxDelta Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 same for me, i have 32gigs ram . looks like to be altitude related, completly smooth over Dubai till descending near the ground, happened at Dubai and Dhafra others to test, i do not get a complete freeze, just 1-2sec freezes, if i can recover it gets fluent as normal again. what can this behaviour make happen. is this already reported or analyzed? av8 is completly unusable in combat situations at PG, so a lot are staying away from PG mission server because of that. can a moderator please confirm that this is reported?! my projects: https://www.sim-addons.com/ https://www.shapeways.com/shops/sim-addons-1 AV8B nozzle lever https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=233670 F18C fingerlifts https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=234747 F18C radar elevation https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=248080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted August 13, 2018 ED Team Share Posted August 13, 2018 same for me, i have 32gigs ram . looks like to be altitude related, completly smooth over Dubai till descending near the ground, happened at Dubai and Dhafra others to test, i do not get a complete freeze, just 1-2sec freezes, if i can recover it gets fluent as normal again. what can this behaviour make happen. is this already reported or analyzed? av8 is completly unusable in combat situations at PG, so a lot are staying away from PG mission server because of that. can a moderator please confirm that this is reported?! The RAZBAM team needs to confirm if its reported or being worked on. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMoGas Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 I spend most my time about 5 feet off the ground so it becomes very dangerous. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 The RAZBAM team needs to confirm if its reported or being worked on. We are checking this issue. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted August 17, 2018 ED Team Share Posted August 17, 2018 We are checking this issue. Thanks for the acknowledgement! Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxDelta Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) i mentioned this 2 weeks ago, i do get freezes and stutters when descending towards ground targets in PG, if i manage to climb again those freezes disapear. log is attached, memory usage was about 23GB!!!!!! the rest of the 32GB were on standby too, so 100% used WIN10,i7 4771,32GBRAM, SSD, 1080ti when i last time reported this issue it was forwarded to RAZBAM, because of flying the AV8B, please can a DEV have a look at? mission length was 74mins unfortunately the track file exceeds the forum MB limit so check the dropbox link https://www.dropbox.com/s/5yomw19dll8lspo/dcsPGsecondstutterslowlevel.zip?dl=0 grass was at 0 trees at 0 Edited September 5, 2018 by FoxDelta my projects: https://www.sim-addons.com/ https://www.shapeways.com/shops/sim-addons-1 AV8B nozzle lever https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=233670 F18C fingerlifts https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=234747 F18C radar elevation https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=248080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelius Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 i mentioned this 2 weeks ago, i do get freezes and stutters when descending towards ground targets in PG, if i manage to climb again those freezes disapear. log is attached, memory usage was about 23GB!!!!!! the rest of the 32GB were on standby too, so 100% used WIN10,i7 4771,32GBRAM, SSD, 1080ti when i last time reported this issue it was forwarded to RAZBAM, because of flying the AV8B, please can a DEV have a look at? mission length was 74mins unfortunately the track file exceeds the forum MB limit so check the dropbox link https://www.dropbox.com/s/5yomw19dll8lspo/dcsPGsecondstutterslowlevel.zip?dl=0 grass was at 0 trees at 0 I had the same issue after I deactivated the Windows 10 pagefiles. Set it back to auto and I've never experienced such problems again. Maybe this helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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