Art-J Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I'd say it's not always on. Just tested in instant P-51 takeoff-Batumi mission. 22-24 fps difference between on and off on my 1140p monitor config. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I believe that LLSR is always activated even in the OFF option. This would justify the drop in performance. Not for me it isn't. FPS hit with it on, and back to normal when off. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetwo Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I know I go from a steady 80fps with everything maxed out in 4K to a steady 20fps as soon as I turn it on. The strange thing is that to my old man's eyes I could not see a difference with it on or off. I have not tried it in VR yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veenee Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Can't see the difference in how it looks either, day or night. But drop in FPS is significant. Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk So many modules, so little time... www.mikphotography.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Before comparing the FPS try cleaning the cache, fxo and shader C:\ Users\ your user\Saved Games\ DCS.openbeta\ metashaders2 C: \ Users\ your user\ Saved Games\ DCS.openbeta\ fxo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy_99 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Been there done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gee Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Regardless of SSLR on or off, I lost 5-8FPS overall in 2.5.6 as opposed to 2.5.5 in my simple testbed mission I use every patch to see performance gains/losses. With SSLR on, I lose another 15% at least in FPS with no real change that I can see from any altitude in the water or coastline. "These are NOT 1 to 1 replicas of the real aircraft, there are countless compromises made on each of them" - Senior ED Member Modules - Damn near all of them (no Christian Eagle or Yak) System - i7-12700K, 64Gig DDR4 3200 RAM, RTX-3080, 3 32" monitors at 5760 x 1080, default settings of High (minor tweaks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Before comparing the FPS try cleaning the cache, fxo and shader C:\ Users\ your user\Saved Games\ DCS.openbeta\ metashaders2 C: \ Users\ your user\ Saved Games\ DCS.openbeta\ fxo Makes no difference. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Does anyone see any difference with this on anyway? I can't, not even over water where it is supposed to have some positive effect. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Does anyone see any difference with this on anyway? I can't, not even over water where it is supposed to have some positive effect. This is just water reflections...now they have a slight improved resolution, which is kind of useless due to the extreme size of water's waves which make reflections look unnatural. Take a look at my MODS here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 This is just water reflections...now they have a slight improved resolution, which is kind of useless due to the extreme size of water's waves which make reflections look unnatural. Hmm, never really understood the waves thing. I mean there are often no waves in the English Channel, yet loads of big waves in internal small water features in Abu Dhabi! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laud Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Hmm, never really understood the waves thing. I mean there are often no waves in the English Channel, yet loads of big waves in internal small water features in Abu Dhabi! Don't want to push further OT but: That's because the water is just one continous surface underlying the terrain elevations. It's not some kind of water engine that calculates aqua-dynamics and how the water should look in different environments. Would be a bit too much strain on the CPU these days to ask for that accuracy. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming, Intel Core i7 9700k , 32gb Corsair DDR4-3200 Asus RTX 2070 super, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M2, Win10 64bit, Acer XZ321QU (WQHD) TM HOTAS Warthog, SAITEK Rudder Pedals, TIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Visually no difference even on the surface of the water. Before comparing the deleted fxo/metashaders2! MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojiao Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 What is SSLR? What I know is the Scene Space Reflection SSR or Realtime Local Reflection,RLR. But SSLR hasn't heard of it. Scene Space Local Reflection? What I know is the Scene Space Reflection SSR or Realtime Local Reflection,RLR. But SSLR hasn't heard of it. Scene Space Local Reflection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojiao Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 What I know is the Scene Space Reflection SSR or Realtime Local Reflection,RLR. But SSLR hasn't heard of it. Scene Space Local Reflection? When you turn on SSLR, you lose a lot of performance and you don't see the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) SSLR is about making lights reflect from the surfaces, instead just color them as typical old method is. So you can set how material reflects the lighting. Like make a canopy to be very reflective, but then dark matte painted panels being very anti-reflective. But you can make modern combat look like Star Wars now with all laser beams: Edited February 16, 2020 by Fri13 i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=263369 System spec: Intel i9 13900KF @ stock, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24GB GDDR6X, Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4, Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600MHz C18, Samsung 980 EVO 500 GB NVME M.2 SSD (system drive), Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB NVME M.2 SSD (games drive), Cooler Master ML360 Illusion CPU Cooler, Asus XG43UQ Monitor, Oculus Quest Pro, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomendio Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Anyone Suffered from a decay in terms of frames? No a single report regarding FPS loss, but mines a bit sluggish after the 2.5.6. Anyone noticed something? thx Always trying to put the thing on the thing... [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic86358_1.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada_Moose Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Anyone Suffered from a decay in terms of frames? No a single report regarding FPS loss, but mines a bit sluggish after the 2.5.6. Anyone noticed something? thx There is lots of reports of bad performance in the bugs section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomendio Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 F..brilliant then... Rolling Black to the 2.5.5. Always trying to put the thing on the thing... [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic86358_1.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerberos Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 you can see the effect of SSLR on this image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count von Altibar Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 When I switch this on DCS crashes and I have a pretty capable system. Hoping we get 2.5.6 tidied up soon but I can live with it for now, definitely some significant improvements abound with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 The effect exists, but it is necessary to search carefully. MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 That is a bit weird. Why should the Hornet-wing reflect the Navy-logo so clearly? Its material should be more diffusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruw Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 That is a bit weird. Why should the Hornet-wing reflect the Navy-logo so clearly? Its material should be more diffusive. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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