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Old 02-16-2017, 08:49 PM   #1
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Question Why does the MiG-29 have two HUDs?

Okay I mean the second one isn't really a hud per-say, but why doesn't the MiG-29 have a radar display like the Su-27 and Su-33 anymore? I swear it used to in the old games, now it just has a redundant second screen that I don't understand the point of in place of where the radar should be... and it's exactly the same as what's on the HUD already.
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Old 02-16-2017, 09:20 PM   #2
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there are like 3 threads about this at any one time if you actually took care to read the forums.

but just to repeat the answer for the 999th time, the old version wasn't realistic. the irl mig only has a hud repeater, and its far from useless because real pilots aren't tunnelvisioning through the hud all the time.

the phrase is also spelled "per se."
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:49 AM   #3
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Probad, I think you are a little hard on Spades Neil. It is answers like that that deterred me from forum participation, years back. Not every one has 22 hours a day to read the DCS forum. If you can not answer the question with some degree of civility, then let someone else answer it. Or, this may sound novel, just be polite.
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I think at 54: 30 of this vedio may explain the reason of hud repeater. https://youtu.be/M5v_lY7rOwE

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there are like 3 threads about this at any one time if you actually took care to read the forums.

but just to repeat the answer for the 999th time, the old version wasn't realistic. the irl mig only has a hud repeater, and its far from useless because real pilots aren't tunnelvisioning through the hud all the time.

the phrase is also spelled "per se."
Contrary to your beliefs, I do always use the search function before making a thread.

https://forums.eagle.ru/search.php?searchid=14484318

Here is what that page looks like. You know the one thread that mentions a HUD repeater, which I didn't even know what it was until now? It's in German. I don't speak German. I appreciate the information, but I'd also appreciate it if you were a little more understanding that perhaps not everyone who posts is an idiot.

I also don't speak Latin, either.

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I think at 54: 30 of this vedio may explain the reason of hud repeater. https://youtu.be/M5v_lY7rOwE

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I'm afraid I don't understand. If it's a two-seater plane, it makes sense to have a display for the rear seat, but the MiG-29S is not a two-seater as far as I am aware. Certainly not the variant in FC3.

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Old 02-17-2017, 09:52 AM   #6
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I'm afraid I don't understand. If it's a two-seater plane, it makes sense to have a display for the rear seat, but the MiG-29S is not a two-seater as far as I am aware. Certainly not the variant in FC3.
Are you asking why it's there in the game or why it's there in the real plane?
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Contrary to your beliefs, I do always use the search function before making a thread.

https://forums.eagle.ru/search.php?searchid=14484318

Here is what that page looks like. You know the one thread that mentions a HUD repeater, which I didn't even know what it was until now? It's in German. I don't speak German. I appreciate the information, but I'd also appreciate it if you were a little more understanding that perhaps not everyone who posts is an idiot.

I also don't speak Latin, either.



I'm afraid I don't understand. If it's a two-seater plane, it makes sense to have a display for the rear seat, but the MiG-29S is not a two-seater as far as I am aware. Certainly not the variant in FC3.
There is another example, I am pretty sure this one is single sitter. Look at 1: 40 carefully. https://youtu.be/nh76OmJ24v8

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@Spades, you can find some more information, including photos and vidoes here:
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=171212
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=158228
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=168862
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=169951
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From the real world manual:
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The HDD is a TV monitor on the right side of the instrument panel. It displays essentially the same picture as the HUD.
There's no other function mentioned for it. It may be there simply as a backup in case of HUD failure. It does, however, note that it can be brightened sufficiently to be readable in direct sunlight. Perhaps that's not the case with the MiG's HUD?
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Perhaps it was intended for more functions like the Su27 HDD but never underwent the development necessary.
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